Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:00:37 -0800 From: Durova nadezhda.durova@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Featured editors? To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: a01006d90711120100i5df41677lce19aa5758177c9@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
It is actually rather hard to get sitebanned from Wikipedia and it's pretty easy to return.
Simply wait on the sidelines quietly without trying to evade the ban on sockpuppets and either let the ban expire or make a polite request to have it lifted. Promise to abide by policies and site standards.
If the editor has done those things, and hasn't done anything extraordinary (such as threatening bodily harm to another editor), then I'll support their return. If I weren't the blocking admin I'd open a dialog to make sure those standards have been satisfied.
I give barnstars to people who make productive contributions after making a legitimate return from a siteban.
Also, there is *no such thing* as a ban from GDFL licensure. People who get banned from Wikipedia and think they can do things better are welcome to start a new wiki and test their principles at it. They don't have to start from square one: Wikimedia's wiki software is free and Wikipedia's article content can be taken and adapted free of charge.
-Durova
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Hi, this is real life. Have you ever been here before? You seem to have come from Wiki-Fantasy Land. We get a lot of people who come from the place where things work how they're supposed to. Unfortunately, this is not Happy Happy Fun Time, it's Wikipedia. And on Wikipedia, a siteban is grounds for a ban everywhere else. And if by some freak of nature, you get unblocked, you'll get reblocked within 5 minutes because you didn't use edit summaries.
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On 12/11/2007, Flameviper Velifang theflameysnake@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi, this is real life. Have you ever been here before? You seem to have come from Wiki-Fantasy Land. We get a lot of people who come from the place where things work how they're supposed to. Unfortunately, this is not Happy Happy Fun Time, it's Wikipedia. And on Wikipedia, a siteban is grounds for a ban everywhere else. And if by some freak of nature, you get unblocked, you'll get reblocked within 5 minutes because you didn't use edit summaries.
You may wish to consider the possibility that you're being perceived as jerkish afresh, which then sets people to considering who else has behaved jerkishly in that particular manner. In practice, banned users showing up again are usually spotted by their chronic inability to learn civilised behaviour.
- d.
On Nov 12, 2007 5:25 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/11/2007, Flameviper Velifang theflameysnake@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi, this is real life. Have you ever been here before? You seem to have come from Wiki-Fantasy Land. We get a lot of people who come from the place where things work how they're supposed to. Unfortunately, this is not Happy Happy Fun Time, it's Wikipedia. And on Wikipedia, a siteban is grounds for a ban everywhere else. And if by some freak of nature, you get unblocked, you'll get reblocked within 5 minutes because you didn't use edit summaries.
You may wish to consider the possibility that you're being perceived as jerkish afresh, which then sets people to considering who else has behaved jerkishly in that particular manner. In practice, banned users showing up again are usually spotted by their chronic inability to learn civilised behaviour.
For example: a known sockpuppeteer using a sockpuppet account to support a request for reinstatement.
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:25:02 +0000, "David Gerard" dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
In practice, banned users showing up again are usually spotted by their chronic inability to learn civilised behaviour.
How true those words are, even today.
Guy (JzG)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:25:10 -0800 (PST), Flameviper Velifang theflameysnake@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi, this is real life. Have you ever been here before? You seem to have come from Wiki-Fantasy Land. We get a lot of people who come from the place where things work how they're supposed to. Unfortunately, this is not Happy Happy Fun Time, it's Wikipedia. And on Wikipedia, a siteban is grounds for a ban everywhere else. And if by some freak of nature, you get unblocked, you'll get reblocked within 5 minutes because you didn't use edit summaries.
Really? Where else do you get sitebanned simply because you're banned on Wikipedia?
And which user was banned for not using edit summaries?
Guy (JzG)
On 12/11/2007, Flameviper Velifang theflameysnake@yahoo.com wrote:
Also, there is *no such thing* as a ban from GDFL licensure.
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