I dropped the journalist who wrote this article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/06/wwiki106.xml
a note commenting on a few errors and she corrected it to this version: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/07/nspam207.xml
which is more accurate.
To let people know :)
-- Gary Kirk
On 08/03/07, Gary Kirk gary@xinki.org.uk wrote:
I dropped the journalist who wrote this article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/06/wwiki106.xml
a note commenting on a few errors and she corrected it to this version: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/07/nspam207.xml
which is more accurate.
And, entertainingly, omits the final paragraph of the previous version which mentions "Regrettheerror.com, a website that reports on corrections in the media". The irony is sweet.
On 08/03/07, Gary Kirk gary@xinki.org.uk wrote:
I dropped the journalist who wrote this article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/06/wwiki106.xml
a note commenting on a few errors and she corrected it to this version:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/07/nspam207.xml
which is more accurate.
To let people know :)
-- Gary Kirk
Just FYI, BBC News online are also good about correcting articles - their newswatch facility almost in a sense allows moderated edits to articles by readers. Certainly I've never had them *ignore* any contributions, though they are dogmatic about some points (They refuse to see their biased use of the term "Irish Republic" as unacceptable - it's not like Irish newswriters use silly terms like British State for the United Kingdom).
Of course, some corrections should not have had to be made in the first place.
Zoney
(They refuse to see their biased use of the term "Irish Republic" as unacceptable - it's not like Irish newswriters use silly terms like British State for the United Kingdom).
How is "Irish Republic" biased? It's has exactly the same meaning as "Republic of Ireland", it's just a different way of saying it. It's probably wrong, strictly speaking, but it isn't biased. For something to be biased it has to come from a particular POV, what POV are you accusing the BBC of having?
What's the newswatch facility? I've clicked the 'Errors/corrections?' link elsewhere on bbc.co.uk informing them the white parts actor in [[Goodness Gracious Me (TV and radio)]] is Dave Lamb not Roger Lamb - twice - and it still says Roger. But yeah...
I also contacted The Register, but they neither responded or corrected their 'comment' ('Farewell, Wikipedia?')
On 09/03/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
(They refuse to see their biased use of the term "Irish Republic" as unacceptable - it's not like Irish
newswriters
use silly terms like British State for the United Kingdom).
How is "Irish Republic" biased? It's has exactly the same meaning as "Republic of Ireland", it's just a different way of saying it. It's probably wrong, strictly speaking, but it isn't biased. For something to be biased it has to come from a particular POV, what POV are you accusing the BBC of having?
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On 3/9/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
(They refuse to see their biased use of the term "Irish Republic" as unacceptable - it's not like Irish newswriters use silly terms like British State for the United Kingdom).
How is "Irish Republic" biased? It's has exactly the same meaning as "Republic of Ireland", it's just a different way of saying it. It's probably wrong, strictly speaking, but it isn't biased. For something to be biased it has to come from a particular POV, what POV are you accusing the BBC of having?
It's probably an [[informal code word]] or something.
On 3/9/07, Mark Wagner carnildo@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/9/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
How is "Irish Republic" biased? It's has exactly the same meaning as "Republic of Ireland", it's just a different way of saying it. It's probably wrong, strictly speaking, but it isn't biased. For something to be biased it has to come from a particular POV, what POV are you accusing the BBC of having?
It's probably an [[informal code word]] or something.
I'm guessing it's like when creationists use the word Darwinism, or something.
--Oskar
On 3/9/07, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/9/07, Mark Wagner carnildo@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/9/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
How is "Irish Republic" biased? It's has exactly the same meaning as "Republic of Ireland", it's just a different way of saying it. It's probably wrong, strictly speaking, but it isn't biased. For something to be biased it has to come from a particular POV, what POV are you accusing the BBC of having?
It's probably an [[informal code word]] or something.
I'm guessing it's like when creationists use the word Darwinism, or something.
I'm guessing that the BBC might have a... British bias? The kind that perhaps waxes nostalgically about Cromwell's conquest of Ireland and the rebuked Protestant Ascendency, still holding on in some parts...
In that context, it seems rather appropriate to refer to the Republic of Ireland as an Irish Republic. One is a "Republic." The other is just "Irish."
:-) -SV
On 3/8/07, Gary Kirk gary@xinki.org.uk wrote:
I dropped the journalist who wrote this article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/06/wwiki106.xml
a note commenting on a few errors and she corrected it to this version:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/07/nspam207.xml
which is more accurate. To let people know :)
How is that more accurate? About half the article was cut out, including this important caveat: "Asked about the incident's impact on Wikipedia's credibility, Mr Wales told the paper: "It is not good, obviously, but the interesting thing is that Mr Jordan was an excellent editor, credentials or no. His work was extremely positive for Wikipedia."
Strange that an email from someone claiming to be an expert would cause a newspaper to change its article so drastically.
-Stevertigo
On 3/9/07, stvrtg stvrtg@gmail.com wrote:
Strange that an email from someone claiming to be an expert would cause a newspaper to change its article so drastically.
PS: I suppose thats the irony someone (above) was talking about. :)