As far as I can remember, I have never interacted with User:Annek in any way. Looking at his contributions, it's possible I changed something he didn't like, since he's edited [[hip hop]] and some other articles I watch. There's never been any conflict between us, however. He has changed a sentence describing me on my own userpage from "I am also homosexual" to "I am a fag". I don't appreciate it, for perhaps obvious reasons, and have let him know on his talk page. I don't know what, if anything, we want to do about this, especially if it remains a single isolated incident, but I wanted to bring it up to the mailing list.
TUF-KAT
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Obviously the reincarnation of another vandal who you admonished. Think hard.
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--- Menchi ebeins@hotmail.com wrote:
Obviously the reincarnation of another vandal who you admonished. Think hard.
I don't generally get involved in arguments. Lately, Lizard King has been an exception after the Talk:Cronus debate concerning his sketch, which has now moved on to his drawing of Bigfoot at Talk:Bigfoot. Since posting my original message to the mailing list, Lizard King changed my comments on Talk:Bigfoot to make it appear as though I liked his sketch (I don't) and that I found Bigfoot sexually appealing (I don't). Lizard King and Annek both changing my words concerning my sexual preferences in the same day is suspicious, but could just be a coincidence (he's denied having any sock puppet accounts on his talk page, but this seems highly unlikely given the number of unheard-of users who like his sketch chiming in at Talk:Bigfoot).
I've never been in any real edit war, except for Michael and this doesn't seem like his style. I've been in a few arguments that have gotten heated, but not many and few of our endlessly reappearing users. Lizard King is the only one that seems a possibility to me, but Annek was making edits long before Lizard King was around. I also checked Annek's contributions, and it doesn't seem like I ever edited anything he wrote, though MyRedDice and SalsaShark reverted some changes he made to [[nigger (word)]] and [[wigger]]. I wasn't aware I had any enemies on Wikipedia (except Michael, whom I haven't even seen in months) and I can't remember the last time I blocked any IP (more than six or seven months ago, I'm sure).
TUF-KAT
P.S. Since I'm delurking myself anyway: not many people have given any opinions concerning the "artist's rendering" and taxobox at [[Bigfoot]]. I'm opposed to both, especially the latter, but my feelings about the sketch are actually mixed -- I'm against it, but it doesn't bother me terribly and I wouldn't normally get involved, except I already was. Some other thoughts there would be nice.
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If you think you don't deseve this defamation, you're right. If you think the vandal needs a real reason to defame you, you are wrong. Vulcan logic is not in the Dictionary of the Vandals. You needn't say something critical of the vandal. If he doesn't like whatever you said or consider you disrespectful of his "work", he'll find a way to defame/insult you. The Way of the Vandal.
Do not worry about it too much. Well, a little bit is ok.
-- ___________________________ Menchi
TUF-KAT refers to this edit: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User:TUF-KAT&diff=2142133&am...
I don't know User:Annek and I haven't interacted with him/her either.
I am very sad about what happened and the incident affected me deeply. I support TUF-KAT and I strongly disagree with Annek's action and attitude.
I ask the community to keep an eye on Annek and if (s)he continues his/her bad behaviour to take proper action.
User:Annek must explain and apologise for his/her action immediatelly.
--Optim
--- Tucci tucci528@yahoo.com wrote:
As far as I can remember, I have never interacted with User:Annek in any way. Looking at his contributions, it's possible I changed something he didn't like, since he's edited [[hip hop]] and some other articles I watch. There's never been any conflict between us, however. He has changed a sentence describing me on my own userpage from "I am also homosexual" to "I am a fag". I don't appreciate it, for perhaps obvious reasons, and have let him know on his talk page. I don't know what, if anything, we want to do about this, especially if it remains a single isolated incident, but I wanted to bring it up to the mailing list.
TUF-KAT
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In general, I would call that bannable behavior, but you don't seem so upset about it, since it seems like it might just be a single isolated incident. It's totally unacceptable, but if it doesn't happen again.
Of course, Annek has just destroyed all credibility for himself, so...
Tucci wrote:
As far as I can remember, I have never interacted with User:Annek in any way. Looking at his contributions, it's possible I changed something he didn't like, since he's edited [[hip hop]] and some other articles I watch. There's never been any conflict between us, however. He has changed a sentence describing me on my own userpage from "I am also homosexual" to "I am a fag". I don't appreciate it, for perhaps obvious reasons, and have let him know on his talk page. I don't know what, if anything, we want to do about this, especially if it remains a single isolated incident, but I wanted to bring it up to the mailing list.
TUF-KAT
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--- Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com wrote:
In general, I would call that bannable behavior, but you don't seem so upset about it, since it seems like it might just be a single isolated incident. It's totally unacceptable, but if it doesn't happen again.
Of course, Annek has just destroyed all credibility for himself, so...
Ordinarily, the word doesn't upset me. My (mostly straight) friends and I lob all manner of racial and sexual slurs towards each other at every available opportunity, but since Annek didn't know that I can only assume he meant it as a dire insult. I agree that, as long as it is a single incident, there's no call for banning (Annek isn't very active anyway) but I am now seriously considering the possibility that he and Lizard King are the same person. Aside from both launching sexual slurs at me on the same day (in Annek's case, with no apparent provocation) is suspicious, as is Lizard King's comments at his talk page and Talk:Bigfoot, where he seems to know more about what is going on and what will be done to check his identity than a new user should know. He dared me to check the IP address for him and Annek, and I'm certain they will be different, just as he claims... Regardless, I will be monitoring Annek.
For the record, anyone following the Lizard King debacle, all of my interaction with him has been on Talk:Cronus, User talk:Lizard King and Talk:Bigfoot -- I've never insulted him personally or broken any Wikipedia policies that I'm aware of. I didn't even engage in an edit war, though UtherSRG did. I believe I reverted [[Cronus]] once, and scrupulously outlined my reasoning on the talk page. I may request a ban soon, depending on how things go -- he has, after all, edited my comments to make it appear as though I agreed with him when I clearly did not and also that I was sexually attracted to Bigfoot -- isn't that an officially bannable action?
Tuf-Kat
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