I've been involved in a dispute with Taxman and others about posting any links to articles on the OmniNerd domain. I have been blocked twice concerning the issue and finally agreed with Taxman to follow his OmniNerd gag order, meaning I can't even suggest an OmniNerd article be listed in a WP article as an external link - no matter how the suggestion is worded.
After my block expired, I made some significant edits to WP pages (not OmniNerd related) and also decided to put some effort into my user page (Uriah923). I noticed that other users - even an admin, Jmabel - included links to writings they had online. I did the same. Taxman then erased the links and blocked me again because the articles I've written are on OmniNerd.
If Taxman and others don't want OmniNerd mentioned in WP articles because it is not "worthy", so be it. But, preventing me from listing the articles I've written on my own user page is going too far. The articles listed there do not have to be worthy of an encyclopedia article reference, or even of an external link - they are just listed because I wrote them. Having the links on my page might affect the PR of the articles, but if this alone is enough to erase them then any external link on anyone else's user page needs to be deleted also - and we all know that's just silly.
So, I hope someone who reads this will be able to look at the case and recognize the abuse. My recent edits (since the gag-order agreement) have been constructive and I plan on doing many more of them. I see nothing wrong with having links to external articles I've personally written on my user page as I do so.
-Brandon (Uriah923)
Have you asked Taxman and Jmabel why they removed the links and blocked you? They probably know their own reasoning best.
--Mgm
On 9/26/05, Brandon Hansen buhansen@gmail.com wrote:
I've been involved in a dispute with Taxman and others about posting any links to articles on the OmniNerd domain. I have been blocked twice concerning the issue and finally agreed with Taxman to follow his OmniNerd gag order, meaning I can't even suggest an OmniNerd article be listed in a WP article as an external link - no matter how the suggestion is worded.
After my block expired, I made some significant edits to WP pages (not OmniNerd related) and also decided to put some effort into my user page (Uriah923). I noticed that other users - even an admin, Jmabel - included links to writings they had online. I did the same. Taxman then erased the links and blocked me again because the articles I've written are on OmniNerd.
If Taxman and others don't want OmniNerd mentioned in WP articles because it is not "worthy", so be it. But, preventing me from listing the articles I've written on my own user page is going too far. The articles listed there do not have to be worthy of an encyclopedia article reference, or even of an external link - they are just listed because I wrote them. Having the links on my page might affect the PR of the articles, but if this alone is enough to erase them then any external link on anyone else's user page needs to be deleted also - and we all know that's just silly.
So, I hope someone who reads this will be able to look at the case and recognize the abuse. My recent edits (since the gag-order agreement) have been constructive and I plan on doing many more of them. I see nothing wrong with having links to external articles I've personally written on my user page as I do so.
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I know nothing about this dispute, but I looked at the diff for the userpage (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AUriah923&diff=24075760&...). I don't see a problem with having the links there, I clicked the sprinkler system one, and I don't see anything wrong with it. But, the name sure sounds like the beginning of a spam email address. Maybe this has something to do with it?
On 9/28/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
Have you asked Taxman and Jmabel why they removed the links and blocked you? They probably know their own reasoning best.
--Mgm
On 9/26/05, Brandon Hansen buhansen@gmail.com wrote:
I've been involved in a dispute with Taxman and others about posting any links to articles on the OmniNerd domain. I have been blocked twice concerning the issue and finally agreed with Taxman to follow his OmniNerd gag order, meaning I can't even suggest an OmniNerd article be listed in a WP article as an external link - no matter how the suggestion is worded.
After my block expired, I made some significant edits to WP pages (not OmniNerd related) and also decided to put some effort into my user page (Uriah923). I noticed that other users - even an admin, Jmabel - included links to writings they had online. I did the same. Taxman then erased the links and blocked me again because the articles I've written are on OmniNerd.
If Taxman and others don't want OmniNerd mentioned in WP articles because it is not "worthy", so be it. But, preventing me from listing the articles I've written on my own user page is going too far. The articles listed there do not have to be worthy of an encyclopedia article reference, or even of an external link - they are just listed because I wrote them. Having the links on my page might affect the PR of the articles, but if this alone is enough to erase them then any external link on anyone else's user page needs to be deleted also - and we all know that's just silly.
So, I hope someone who reads this will be able to look at the case and recognize the abuse. My recent edits (since the gag-order agreement) have been constructive and I plan on doing many more of them. I see nothing wrong with having links to external articles I've personally written on my user page as I do so.
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The comment Taxman used when removing them the first time was that they were "SEO links", which I presume means "Search Engine Optimization" -- i.e., he's (allegedly) trying to piggyback his page's own pagerank onto Wikipedia's high pagerank.
I'm not sure there's any reason why people can't do that on their user pages, anyway, especially when it is something like "the writings of so and so" and not "BUY CANADIAN PHARMA HERE" or something like that. But anyway, that's what I'm betting the reasoning was, right or wrong.
FF
On 9/28/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
Have you asked Taxman and Jmabel why they removed the links and blocked you? They probably know their own reasoning best.
--Mgm
On 9/26/05, Brandon Hansen buhansen@gmail.com wrote:
I've been involved in a dispute with Taxman and others about posting any links to articles on the OmniNerd domain. I have been blocked twice concerning the issue and finally agreed with Taxman to follow his OmniNerd gag order, meaning I can't even suggest an OmniNerd article be listed in a WP article as an external link - no matter how the suggestion is worded.
After my block expired, I made some significant edits to WP pages (not OmniNerd related) and also decided to put some effort into my user page (Uriah923). I noticed that other users - even an admin, Jmabel - included links to writings they had online. I did the same. Taxman then erased the links and blocked me again because the articles I've written are on OmniNerd.
If Taxman and others don't want OmniNerd mentioned in WP articles because it is not "worthy", so be it. But, preventing me from listing the articles I've written on my own user page is going too far. The articles listed there do not have to be worthy of an encyclopedia article reference, or even of an external link - they are just listed because I wrote them. Having the links on my page might affect the PR of the articles, but if this alone is enough to erase them then any external link on anyone else's user page needs to be deleted also - and we all know that's just silly.
So, I hope someone who reads this will be able to look at the case and recognize the abuse. My recent edits (since the gag-order agreement) have been constructive and I plan on doing many more of them. I see nothing wrong with having links to external articles I've personally written on my user page as I do so.
-Brandon (Uriah923) _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
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AH. That makes sense. Well, I can see that being a decent allegation in article space, but I think a few links on his userpage won't matter a whole lot. Additionally, it might not be such a great idea to add links to something you run or wrote on an article, especially after being accused of such a thing. I have added a link or two on wikipedia to a wiki I run, but I've done it so people can find the information there. And others have added links to it too, some of them I've never seen edit on my wiki. So, they must think it's useful too. There's probably a link to it on three or four articles on wikipedia, and it's still difficult to find on Google without specifically entering it's name. I would have no problem if someone accused me of SEO linking, and I would stop adding them. (Not that I have in a very long time..)
My suggestion is to give up the fight over the external links. It's a big thing to get a link from wikipedia, and only a handful of sites get onto any article. If it's really a good site, someone will revert it back in eventually, hopefully.
I did look at your sprinkler page, and it was interesting. I barely read anything and learned things.
On 9/28/05, Fastfission fastfission@gmail.com wrote:
The comment Taxman used when removing them the first time was that they were "SEO links", which I presume means "Search Engine Optimization" -- i.e., he's (allegedly) trying to piggyback his page's own pagerank onto Wikipedia's high pagerank.
I'm not sure there's any reason why people can't do that on their user pages, anyway, especially when it is something like "the writings of so and so" and not "BUY CANADIAN PHARMA HERE" or something like that. But anyway, that's what I'm betting the reasoning was, right or wrong.
FF
On 9/28/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
Have you asked Taxman and Jmabel why they removed the links and blocked you? They probably know their own reasoning best.
--Mgm
On 9/26/05, Brandon Hansen buhansen@gmail.com wrote:
I've been involved in a dispute with Taxman and others about posting any links to articles on the OmniNerd domain. I have been blocked twice concerning the issue and finally agreed with Taxman to follow his OmniNerd gag order, meaning I can't even suggest an OmniNerd article be listed in a WP article as an external link - no matter how the suggestion is worded.
After my block expired, I made some significant edits to WP pages (not OmniNerd related) and also decided to put some effort into my user page (Uriah923). I noticed that other users - even an admin, Jmabel - included links to writings they had online. I did the same. Taxman then erased the links and blocked me again because the articles I've written are on OmniNerd.
If Taxman and others don't want OmniNerd mentioned in WP articles because it is not "worthy", so be it. But, preventing me from listing the articles I've written on my own user page is going too far. The articles listed there do not have to be worthy of an encyclopedia article reference, or even of an external link - they are just listed because I wrote them. Having the links on my page might affect the PR of the articles, but if this alone is enough to erase them then any external link on anyone else's user page needs to be deleted also - and we all know that's just silly.
So, I hope someone who reads this will be able to look at the case and recognize the abuse. My recent edits (since the gag-order agreement) have been constructive and I plan on doing many more of them. I see nothing wrong with having links to external articles I've personally written on my user page as I do so.
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