Jimbo is right. There are users who make a complete joke of our "enforcement" procedures. Right now, Zog has headed one of his user talk pages with a picture of a Klan ritual, complete with text: "Look out niggers the Klan is getting bigger!!!"
Either we figure out a way to deal promptly with scum like this, or we quit pretending that we are trying. Tony Wilson (Tannin)
On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 10:10, Tony Wilson wrote:
Jimbo is right. There are users who make a complete joke of our "enforcement" procedures. Right now, Zog has headed one of his user talk pages with a picture of a Klan ritual, complete with text: "Look out niggers the Klan is getting bigger!!!"
Either we figure out a way to deal promptly with scum like this, or we quit pretending that we are trying. Tony Wilson (Tannin)
I don't understand what the problem is. Aren't people just deleting the content when it comes on line?
The Cunctator wrote:
I don't understand what the problem is. Aren't people just deleting the content when it comes on line?
Yes, but it takes a lot of time. If we're going to delete everything he writes (and we are), then it makes sense to raise the cost of persistence to him, and lower the cost of persistence to us. Username and ip bans are very effective for that, forcing him to dialup over and over, and login again and again.
--Jimbo
Before our good friend started logging in there were edits from the University of South Florida on very similar themes which I can't believe weren't made by the same person. Presumably someone is able to find out the IP addresses of Zog et al, if they are all USF then I'd be in favour of trying to get USF to find out who it is and them giving he/she a Strong Talking To. There's a newly rededicated statue of Martin Luther King at USF ( http://www.usf.edu/hppic_entry11.html ) so I assume they probably take a pretty dim view of racism (and of mis-use of college networks etc.). Pointing out the fact that if their IPs keep being blocked then their students will lose this resource may be of interest to them.
On the other hand if they're just some nutcase not affiliated to any institution then I guess Jimbo's answer below is all we can do.
Andrew (Ams80)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Wales" jwales@bomis.com To: wikien-l@wikipedia.org Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Zog is back as Anti-Zog
The Cunctator wrote:
I don't understand what the problem is. Aren't people just deleting the content when it comes on line?
Yes, but it takes a lot of time. If we're going to delete everything he writes (and we are), then it makes sense to raise the cost of persistence to him, and lower the cost of persistence to us. Username and ip bans are very effective for that, forcing him to dialup over and over, and login again and again.
--Jimbo _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l