Most articles have significant further work to be done. The exact nature of that work depends on the subject. Almost all of that work can be done without getting involved in difficult coding issues. However, there is a relentless elitism at work; editing for usability requires great skill, skill of the sort involved in editing any book or journal; as does adding and supporting additional and balancing information. While we do not forbid editing of the "what I think" variety, more and more often such additions are treated as vandalism. Fred -----Original Message----- From: Jason McCabe Calacanis [mailto:jason@calacanis.com] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 01:04 PM To: 'English Wikipedia', 'Wikimedia developers' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Jason Calancis on Wikipedia's technological obscurantism [Uncloaking] Yes, this is very old, and frankly with the "completion of wikipedia" on horizon my thoughts on the subject are probably irrelevant now. One could argue that Wikipedia needs *less* general participation at this point, and more "expert" (or targeted, or focused, whatever) participation. What % of your work is policing/reverting vs. evolving I wonder? How has that changed over the past five years? Perhaps making it hard to edit *is* a blessing today... Intended or not. Of course, you folks would know better than me... At Mahalo we use wikimarkup and not wysiwyg, so I'm haven't solved the issue and I have seven f/t devs! Rock on, Jason --------------- Jason(a)Calacanis.com | Mobile: 310-456-4900 http://www.calacanis.com | http://www.mahalo.com Executive Assistant: admin(a)calacanis.com -----Original Message----- From: "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:40:34 To:"Wikimedia developers" <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>,"English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Jason Calancis on Wikipedia's technological obscurantism http://www.calacanis.com/2007/02/20/technological-obscurification-three-way… (no, he didn't know the word "obscurantism.") Discussion please. - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l