Viajero writes:
Sorry Robert, I won't let you get away the defaming these two contributors behind their backs; Danny appears to have left us and Zero doesn't subscribe to this list.
First off, Zero is probably Danny. Secondly, I have re-read my initial letter and I can find no defamation or personal attacks at all. I only described his own stated political philosophy. (Which is also clear from dozens of public statements and edits he has made.)
Unlike you, I really tried to work with Danny, and I had a real relationship with him off of Wikipedia as well (i.e. in the real world) for several months. He repeatedly made it clear that he was anti-Zionist...yet we still got along for some time. I have no reason to believe that he was lying about his own beliefs.
Smearing them as "anti-Zionists" is a ludicrous charge; it is as meaningless a term as calling them "anti-American" and simply demonstrates nothing more than the poverty of your argument.
Please stop your baseless slander of me. Your words only show your ignorance of the topic, and prove to others that you cannot be taken seriously.
In reality, Danny, Adam Carr and I all cooperated on the new Wikipedia anti-Zionism article, and we all came to an agreement. All of us agreed that the term anti-Zionist is NOT a hate term, it is not slander, and that it does not carry the specific meaning that _you_ assign to it. Heck, some of my own family members are anti-Zionist, and I don't hate them. I just understand that they have a very different view of the world than I do.
So please stop being hysterical.
The problem with Danny is that he was very emotional in his anti-Zionism, and started to push his views. When he found out that he could not force Wikipedia to promote his private political views in one article, he deleted his homne page and quit forever. That was unfortunate, and a bit surprising. I was expecting more mature behaviour.
If you had taken the time to read the Wikipedia anti-Zionism article, or just peruse its edit history, you would know all this, but it seems that you are no longer here to help. You just have personal animosity towards me.
You think perhaps Danny and Zero wish for the destruction of Israel???
Does it make you feel better to put words in my mouth, and then attack me for things I never said or implied? That kind of behavior is out of line. If I did this to you, people would be calling for me to be banned.
In sadness at your behaviour,
Robert
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On 01/10/04 at 05:35 PM, Robert rkscience100@yahoo.com said:
If you had taken the time to read the Wikipedia anti-Zionism article, or just peruse its edit history, you would know all this,
On the first line of the fourth line of the article, it says:
"The defining characteristic of anti-Zionism is therefore opposition to the existence of the State of Israel
Ok. Provide us with concrete evidence that Danny and Zero have been pushing an "anti-Zionist agenda" on Wikipedia as you charge. I don't mean something Danny said to you on the telephone; I mean verifiable edits and comments on Talk pages. Show us where EXACTLY where their edits reflect activism in opposition of Israel.
V.