-----Original Message----- From: Steve Bennett [mailto:stevagewp@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2007 11:06 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: [WikiEN-l] A quiet, peaceful email list for experienced en contributors?

Hi all, I notice that lately this mailing list seems to be almost overrun with a lot of noise: complaints about blocking, diatribes about perceived wrongs, requests of various kinds. Whereas what I would really like is a place where the most committed and experienced Wikipedians can discuss more serious issues in a bit of depth: where the project is going, recurring problems at a more abstract level, general issues more distilled than "omg [[foo.com]] is so crap!" etc.

Is there such a list, or place to talk? Is there interest in creating one?

There is certainly a need for the current list, to allow such day-to-day discussions to take place, but somewhere to escape the noise and engage in a bit of deeper reflection would be nice.

Any ideas?

Steve

Good idea. Such an invitation only list, provided games are not being played with the invitations (fat chance) would return some part of the serious discussion now being conducted on private lists such as the arbcom list to the community. However if the usual spammers are still here, what would be the point. A problem there, as some of those whose posts I always delete consider themselves valuable contributors to the conversation.

Fred