I know this has been discussed again and again, but can we *please* just delete articles that consist of a name, date of birth, place of employment, bland description of how much they loved their kids, and the fact that they happened to die on September 11th?
Or can I add an article on myself, and on my mother, and my girlfriend, and the people I work with, and my dog? Perhaps we should just import electoral registers into the wikipedia.
Jason Williams wrote:
I know this has been discussed again and again, but can we *please* just delete articles that consist of a name, date of birth, place of employment, bland description of how much they loved their kids, and the fact that they happened to die on September 11th?
Have these been moved over to sep11.wikipedia.org?
I think the general consensus is that this stuff isn't encyclopedic (i.e. too unverifiable to be genuinely NPOV) and the consensus WAS that it should go to sep11.wikipedia.org. But the latest consensus was that it should probably go to a non-wikipedia domain, for two reasons: (1) is isn't encyclopedic, so it doesn't belong on a wikipedia domain and (2) a tribute might actually be better if it wasn't trying to be NPOV.
Since people spent time typing it it, it seems a shame to just delete any of it, so moving it to sep11 for now seems like a good idea, and then later on, sep11.wikipedia.org can be given a new domain name, which I'm happy to supply and pay for if someone has a good idea that isn't taken.
This is sort of Cunc's baby, so I'm happy to follow whatever he wants to do here.
--Jimbo
On 2/24/03 7:03 AM, "Jason Williams" jason@jasonandali.org.uk wrote:
I know this has been discussed again and again, but can we *please* just delete articles that consist of a name, date of birth, place of employment, bland description of how much they loved their kids, and the fact that they happened to die on September 11th?
Like what? Name the entries.
Or can I add an article on myself, and on my mother, and my girlfriend, and the people I work with, and my dog? Perhaps we should just import electoral registers into the wikipedia.
Probably not your dog, but if there are references to back up the information you put in your entries, I see no reason not to put in an entry on yourself, etc.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:37:08AM -0500, The Cunctator wrote:
On 2/24/03 7:03 AM, "Jason Williams" jason@jasonandali.org.uk wrote:
I know this has been discussed again and again, but can we *please* just delete articles that consist of a name, date of birth, place of employment, bland description of how much they loved their kids, and the fact that they happened to die on September 11th?
Like what? Name the entries.
Somebody has compiled a list at
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:September_11%2C_2001_Terrorist_Attack/Mem...
On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 13:09, Jason Williams wrote:
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:37:08AM -0500, The Cunctator wrote:
On 2/24/03 7:03 AM, "Jason Williams" jason@jasonandali.org.uk wrote:
I know this has been discussed again and again, but can we *please* just delete articles that consist of a name, date of birth, place of employment, bland description of how much they loved their kids, and the fact that they happened to die on September 11th?
Like what? Name the entries.
Somebody has compiled a list at
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:September_11%2C_2001_Terrorist_Attack/Mem...
Bryan's list includes many entries that have more than the above. I see few with a bland description of how much they loved their kids. In particular most have links to external references.
And many of those listed have obvious significance, like [[Jeremy Glick]], [[Neil D. Levin]], and [[Carolyn Beug]]. But I concede that someone like [[Barbara Keating]] is uninteresting, because she never worked on a music video.
I was hoping that you would instead be pointing out entries such as [[Valerie Tschetter]] which is most likely apocryphal, or [[Matthew Rogan]], which is just a tribute.
There is absolutely no good reason to delete or move most of these entries. Rather, this is one of the few places where Wikipedia can beat traditional encyclopedias.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 03:42:57PM -0500, The Cunctator wrote:
Bryan's list includes many entries that have more than the above. I see few with a bland description of how much they loved their kids. In particular most have links to external references.
Okay, "bland description of how much they loved their kids" was supposed to reflect the *kind* of thing I was talking about, not a specific example. Like, for instance, the story about how [[Kevin Michael Williams]] proposed to his "high school sweetheart".
I was hoping that you would instead be pointing out entries such as [[Valerie Tschetter]] which is most likely apocryphal, or [[Matthew Rogan]], which is just a tribute.
[[Zoe Johnson]], [[Pamela Boyce]], [[Melissa Harrington-Hughes]], [[Donald Adams]], [[Kevin Michael Williams]] and [[Juanita Del Freje]] are a few of the ones I'm talking about more specifically.