There are some regular writers on Wikipedia who knowingly engage in personal attacks and deletions (even of links) of anyone who explains the connection between Edward Bellamy and his cousin Francis Bellamy (author of the pledge of allegiance) and National Socialism. Some of the worst falsifiers on Wikipedia are Stormie, Lupo, and Matt Crypto. They were challenged to respond to the facts that they suppressed or to concede, and they each conceded that the facts that they suppress are correct and that they delete those facts because they do not want Wikipedia readers to know the truth. They constantly spam their own point of view in their diatribes in which they try to cover up for Nazism. It is behavior that breaks Wikipedia's rules. What kind of people cover-up for Nazis and that horrid ideology?
Many regular writers on Wikipedia are intellectually dishonest and they regurgitate the top media cover-ups. They cover up many historic photos of the Pledge of Allegiance http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html that reveal its original straight-arm salute. They cover up the fact that the author of the Pledge of Allegiance (Francis Bellamy), and his cousin and cohort (Edward Bellamy), were National Socialists and supported the "Nationalism" movement, the "Nationalist" magazine, the "Nationalist Educational Association," their dogma of "military socialism," and Edward inspired the "Nationalist Party." They cover up the Pledge's straight-arm salute as the origin http://rexcurry.net/pledge1.html of the salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis). As part of the cover up, they perpetuate the myth http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html that the straight-arm salute was from ancient Rome. They cover up discoveries by the historian Rex Curry. The Pledge began with a military salute that then stretched outward toward the flag. Historic photographs are at http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html and at http://rexcurry.net/pledge_military.html showing the evolution of the gesture. Due to the way that both gestures were used, the military salute led to the Nazi salute. The Nazi salute http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html is an extended military salute. A mnemonic device is the swastika ("Hakenkreuz" in German). Although the swastika was an ancient symbol, it was also used sometimes by German National Socialists to represent "S" letters for their "socialism." Hitler altered his own signature http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html to use the same stylized "S" letter for "socialist." Wikipedia's fibbers cover up for the swastika http://rexcurry.net/swastikanews.html and its use as a sick socialist symbol. Wikipedia's dissemblers cover up for the National Socialist German Worker's Party http://rexcurry.net/swastikamedia.html by overuse of the hackneyed shorthand "Nazi." Many Wikipedia posters are propagandists in that there was no "Nazi Party" because it was actually the "National Socialist German Workers' Party" and the party members did not call themselves "Nazis" nor the "Nazi Party." The term "Nazi" developed from slang using the first syllable in the German pronunciation of the "National Socialist German Workers' Party." In that sense, the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a "Nazi" too, in that the term means "National Socialist." The term "Nazi" is also used to hide the National Socialist dogma behind the Pledge of Allegiance, its original gesture, and the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Wikipedia's cons use the term "Nazi" and the misnomer "Nazi Party" to cover-up the horrors of socialism. Wikipedia's falsifiers cover up the the socialist trio of atrocities and and their socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): 62 million people were slaughtered under the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 35 million were slaughtered under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21 million were slaughtered under the National Socialist German Workers' Party. They cover up the fact that socialists helped start WWII with the National Socialist German Workers' Party and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics together http://rexcurry.net/socialistwar.html as allies in 1939. They cover up for and are deniers of the socialist Wholecaust, http://rexcurry.net/mediacoverup.html of which the monstrous Holocaust was a part.
Liars on Wikipedia repeat common lies http://rexcurry.net/mediapledge.html of the media. http://rexcurry.net/socialistmedia.html
Wikipedia should not be cited for support because it is no different than quoting various anonymous sources who have no knowledge of the topic http://rexcurry.net/wikipedialies.html or who have fibs to spread about the topic.
The Wikipedia article for the "Roman salute" used to be complete disinformation, deliberately maintained by phonies who tried to perpetuate myths. Here is an excerpt of what Wikipedia used to carry: "The Roman salute is a closed finger, flat-palm-down hand raised at an angle (usually 45 degrees) and was used by the Roman Republic. It was also the historical civilian salute of the United States, from 1787?-1934?, known since 1892 as the Bellamy salute. It was also the historical salute among armies of the Middle East and South America. When the Nazi party of Germany adopted the Roman salute from the Italian fascists." Wikipedia liars also used the painting "The Oath of the Horatii" http://rexcurry.net/pledgehoratii.html as absurd support for a Roman connection. The foregoing is all incorrect and of course without any attribution nor support on the Wikipedia page because there is no support. It is not a Roman salute
Similar criticisms apply to the Wikipedia pages on Francis Bellamy, Edward Bellamy and the Pledge of Allegiance.
Recently, someone who posts to Wikipedia wised up and improved the "Roman salute" article some, while other pledge related articles are as bad as ever.
Wikipedia falsifiers use the misnomer "public schools" when they mean "government schools" and they both cover-up the Bellamys' desire to promote a government takeover of education, a desire to end all of the better alternatives, and to impose socialism (and what the Bellamys called "military socialism") within government schools. The Bellamys loved the military and wanted all of society to ape the military. Those points also help explain why Francis Bellamy enjoyed starting the pledge with a military salute.
--- Rex rexy@ij.net wrote:
There are some regular writers on Wikipedia who knowingly engage in personal attacks and deletions (even of links) of anyone who explains the connection between Edward Bellamy and his cousin Francis Bellamy (author > of
the pledge of allegiance) and National Socialism. Some of the worst falsifiers on Wikipedia are Stormie, Lupo, and Matt Crypto. They were challenged to respond to the facts that they suppressed or to concede,
<screed snipped>
For those who are interested, I blocked Rex (User:66.234.65.222) for 48 hours for spamming this literate essay on "Wikipedia's lying liars & their lies" to numerous talk pages and article pages, even after being warned. (He's also seen fit to spam my blog, too).
I don't altogether know what he's on about; something about the US pledge of allegiance?
-- Matt
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Matt_Crypto Blog: http://cipher-text.blogspot.com
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"Rex" rexy@ij.net wrote in message news:017401c5f057$e6e33c80$6401a8c0@rexyhp... [snip]
... They cover up discoveries by the historian Rex Curry.
Just checking: are you actually "the historian Rex Curry"?
If so, are you sure you have checked the Wikipedia policy against "original research"?
* Go to any Wikipedia page, type "WP:NOR" into the search box and click "Go". * Read carefully
HTH HAND
--- Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
"Rex" rexy@ij.net wrote in message [snip]
... They cover up discoveries by the historian Rex Curry.
Just checking: are you actually "the historian Rex Curry"?
Not just that, but his own website modestly proclaims that:
"RexCurry.net is a familiar voice of freedom for millions. As an international businessman, worldwide correspondent, journalist, distinguished lecturer, political scientist, consultant, author, and activist, Rex operates a think tank and pressure group to promote liberty."
Ah, I love the Internet...
-- Matt
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Matt R wrote:
--- Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
"Rex" rexy@ij.net wrote in message [snip]
... They cover up discoveries by the historian Rex Curry.
Just checking: are you actually "the historian Rex Curry"?
Not just that, but his own website modestly proclaims that:
"RexCurry.net is a familiar voice of freedom for millions. As an international businessman, worldwide correspondent, journalist, distinguished lecturer, political scientist, consultant, author, and activist, Rex operates a think tank and pressure group to promote liberty."
Ah, I love the Internet...
-- Matt
A "pressure group to promote liberty"!? Wow! :-\
Ec
"Ray Saintonge" saintonge@telus.net wrote in message news:43863225.1080505@telus.net...
Matt R wrote:
--- Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
"Rex" rexy@ij.net wrote in message [snip]
... They cover up discoveries by the historian Rex Curry.
Just checking: are you actually "the historian Rex Curry"?
Not just that, but his own website modestly proclaims that: "RexCurry.net is a familiar voice of freedom for millions. As an international businessman, worldwide correspondent, journalist, distinguished lecturer, political scientist, consultant, author, and activist, Rex operates a think tank and pressure group to promote liberty." Ah, I love the Internet...
A "pressure group to promote liberty"!? Wow! :-\
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You vill be free, vezzer you like it or not...(don't mention the war :-)
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"Matt R" matt_crypto@yahoo.co.uk wrote in message news:20051124173047.22669.qmail@web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com...
--- Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
"Rex" rexy@ij.net wrote in message [snip]
... They cover up discoveries by the historian Rex Curry.
Just checking: are you actually "the historian Rex Curry"?
Not just that, but his own website modestly proclaims that:
[snip]
Ah, I love the Internet...
For someone who seems so keen on spreading information around, he doesn't seem to give much away for free: is there anything on that site you don't have to pay for?
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, Phil Boswell wrote:
"Matt R" matt_crypto@yahoo.co.uk wrote in message news:20051124173047.22669.qmail@web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com...
--- Phil Boswell phil.boswell@gmail.com wrote:
"Rex" rexy@ij.net wrote in message [snip]
... They cover up discoveries by the historian Rex Curry.
Just checking: are you actually "the historian Rex Curry"?
Not just that, but his own website modestly proclaims that:
[snip]
Ah, I love the Internet...
For someone who seems so keen on spreading information around, he doesn't seem to give much away for free: is there anything on that site you don't have to pay for?
You noticed that too?
That fact provides us with a simple solution to Rex's insistence that his materials are not being cited or refered to on Wikipedia: it's due to copyright considerations. He appears to be very concerned with his rights over his materials or research, & we'd rather error on the side of caution, rather than violate his copyright. If he provides information on his website that is reusable under a free license, then we'll revisit the issue whether his research is unfairly excluded from Wikipedia.
Geoff
Geoff Burling wrote:
That fact provides us with a simple solution to Rex's insistence that his materials are not being cited or refered to on Wikipedia: it's due to copyright considerations. He appears to be very concerned with his rights over his materials or research, & we'd rather error on the side of caution, rather than violate his copyright. If he provides information on his website that is reusable under a free license, then we'll revisit the issue whether his research is unfairly excluded from Wikipedia.
Rex replied to this with another rant, this time including you amongst the forces of evil suppressing the truth. I replied telling him to go away until he has something new to say. I ask all to abandon the subject for now.
- d.
"David Gerard" fun@thingy.apana.org.au wrote in message news:438857F3.4090505@thingy.apana.org.au... [snip]
Rex replied to this with another rant, this time including you amongst the forces of evil suppressing the truth. I replied telling him to go away until he has something new to say. I ask all to abandon the subject for now.
I'll be glad to once he stops filling my email inbox with copies of his rants...do I look particularly sympathetic to anyone here? :-)