Folks,
Someone who can should consider locking down the [[Virginia Tech Campus]] Article for a couple days. At least 21 students were killed this morning in a shooting incident. Who knows what kind of stuff people will try to add to the Article before all of the facts are in.
Marc Riddell
On 4/16/07, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Someone who can should consider locking down the [[Virginia Tech Campus]] Article for a couple days. At least 21 students were killed this morning in a shooting incident. Who knows what kind of stuff people will try to add to the Article before all of the facts are in.
We tend to prefer waiting until there actually is a problem before employing protection.
-Matt
There's probably gonna be a detailed article about the shooting. I doubt there's gonna be much editing to the Campus article itself, not much keepworthy stuff anyway.
Mgm
On 4/16/07, Matthew Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/16/07, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Someone who can should consider locking down the [[Virginia Tech
Campus]]
Article for a couple days. At least 21 students were killed this morning
in
a shooting incident. Who knows what kind of stuff people will try to add
to
the Article before all of the facts are in.
We tend to prefer waiting until there actually is a problem before employing protection.
-Matt
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On 16/04/07, Matthew Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/16/07, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Someone who can should consider locking down the [[Virginia Tech Campus]] Article for a couple days. At least 21 students were killed this morning in a shooting incident. Who knows what kind of stuff people will try to add to the Article before all of the facts are in.
We tend to prefer waiting until there actually is a problem before employing protection.
Yep. Even when the experienced are 99% sure the article will need it ;-)
(I'm not saying this should change, by the way. Our imperfection is our key strength, it's up to the rest of the world to realise that our radical openness is what got us this far.)
- d.
David Gerard wrote:
On 16/04/07, Matthew Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/16/07, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Someone who can should consider locking down the [[Virginia Tech Campus]] Article for a couple days. At least 21 students were killed this morning in a shooting incident. Who knows what kind of stuff people will try to add to the Article before all of the facts are in.
We tend to prefer waiting until there actually is a problem before employing protection.
Yep. Even when the experienced are 99% sure the article will need it ;-)
(I'm not saying this should change, by the way. Our imperfection is our key strength, it's up to the rest of the world to realise that our radical openness is what got us this far.)
This point is often missed by those who want a "perfect" encyclopedia.
Ec
A bit more time has passed, and things are gradually slowing down, on the article. I've spent some time trying to watch over [[Virginia tech massacre]], and I know other editors have been doing the same at that and related pages. Thanks to everyone who's helped with those articles. Provided we can keep up, I'd prefer to avoid sprotection. In cases where we don't, we can try short-term semi and reasses.
There's certainly been a lot less vandalism than I remember from any remotely similar incidents -- Irwin's unfortunate run-in with the stringray, for example. There is more hateful speech being posted, on this one, I'd like if we could be especially watchful for that sort of thing. Most of the "problems" are actually POV editing (mostly on what officials should(n't) have done, and gun control, when I was watching last night), and a slow edit war over whether some reactions from various groups should be included. As is often the case on Wikipedia, I'm happy to see that people really are decent and can work together.
And since I am human, and can't only concern myself with keeping things on the Wikipedia side clean and orderly: this whole thing is a damned shame, I don't know what to make of it, I've got introspective questions, and I can only hope that some small good, at least, comes of this. My sympathies to anyone close to this incident.
-Luna
on 4/18/07 5:46 PM, Luna at lunasantin@gmail.com wrote:
A bit more time has passed, and things are gradually slowing down, on the article. I've spent some time trying to watch over [[Virginia tech massacre]], and I know other editors have been doing the same at that and related pages. Thanks to everyone who's helped with those articles. Provided we can keep up, I'd prefer to avoid sprotection. In cases where we don't, we can try short-term semi and reasses.
There's certainly been a lot less vandalism than I remember from any remotely similar incidents -- Irwin's unfortunate run-in with the stringray, for example. There is more hateful speech being posted, on this one, I'd like if we could be especially watchful for that sort of thing. Most of the "problems" are actually POV editing (mostly on what officials should(n't) have done, and gun control, when I was watching last night), and a slow edit war over whether some reactions from various groups should be included. As is often the case on Wikipedia, I'm happy to see that people really are decent and can work together.
And since I am human, and can't only concern myself with keeping things on the Wikipedia side clean and orderly: this whole thing is a damned shame, I don't know what to make of it, I've got introspective questions, and I can only hope that some small good, at least, comes of this. My sympathies to anyone close to this incident.
-Luna
I want to second and say a yea! to much of this. I was truly amazed at the speed, collaboration and professionalism with which the various writers and editors worked to create the Virginia Tech killings piece. The stumbling, debating - yes arguing - that went into it produced a piece I believe we as a Community can all be proud of.
Personally, I was sickened by this senseless act. Professionally, as all of the pieces which led to this act come together - I am sickened by the fact that it does make sense.
Be healthy,
Marc Riddell