Morven wrote:
On 11/10/05, Alphax (Wikipedia email) <alphasigmax at gmail.com> wrote:
[[WP:AUTO]].
WP:AUTO addresses creating an article about yourself. It doesn't address finding an article about yourself on Wikipedia nearly so well. Perhaps I'll start such a guideline, if it turns out there isn't one.
It doesn't need a new guideline, just adding to that one. Common-sense guidelines should do it:
* Please don't edit the article about yourself directly. It would probably be appropriate to add relevant information to the article's talk page for other editors to decide on. * You don't get to judge whether you are an encyclopedic subject. [rephrase in diplomatic] * If you don't like the photo, please do contribute a good photo under a free license. * ...
- d.
We should be careful to make such guidelines reflect the fact that MOST people who discover an article about themselves don't have bad intentions. I last read it a few days ago, before David's modifications, but it seemed to be rather biased towards the view that most such persons will be either (a) those who are too unremarkable to have a Wikipedia article but self-create one, or (b) those wanting to use the article for self-promotion, delete verifiable and honest criticism, or don't want an article about themselves.
Basically, it represents the viewpoint (largely true in the past) that most such people who come to Wikipedia are crackpots or scarcely notable. Our notability/notoriety has now gone beyond that, and I suspect we will see much more of this in the future.
-Matt
On 11/12/05, Matt Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
... Basically, it represents the viewpoint (largely true in the past) that most such people who come to Wikipedia are crackpots or scarcely notable. Our notability/notoriety has now gone beyond that, and I suspect we will see much more of this in the future.
I think this is where there is a place for a distinction between those who start articles about themselves, and those who merely contribute to articles about themselves. We should probably discourage people starting autobiographies, but if someone else considers a person notable enough for an article, then they should certainly be allowed to edit, with the caveat that the ordinary rules against original research and unverifiability apply against them also, and will probably be policed more strictly.
-- Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com