Ed Poor began:
If Wik is really making unprovoked abusive comments, ...
Wik really isn't making unprovoked abusive comments. Wik *has* said some rude things on occasion. On a more systematic basis, his editing style has been characterised as being rude.
Equally, people have said rude, even provocative, things about Wik, on occasion. For example, earlier on this list, Jacob Roberson described Wik as, in part, a "troll, vandal, edit warrior, and pov warrior...".
perhaps we should do a bit more to rein him in.
Such as, say, discussing the issue with Wik, and thus persuading him to remove some comments from his user page that a variety of people felt were inappropriate. Oh wait, people did that. And it worked...
We have been struggling to establish a process for this.
I thought we had one. According to [[wikipedia:no personal attacks]], "Many Wikipedians remove personal attacks on sight. In extreme cases, users have been banned for repeatedly engaging in personal attacks".
Perhaps this policy should be changed, if you don't like its results?
-Martin
From: "Martin Harper" martin@myreddice.freeserve.co.uk Reply-To: martin@myreddice.co.uk, English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 23:48:47 +0100 To: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Wik - "unproked absuive comments"
Ed Poor began:
If Wik is really making unprovoked abusive comments, ...
Wik really isn't making unprovoked abusive comments. Wik *has* said some rude things on occasion.
False, he does make unprovoked abusive comments. He is also habitually rude.
On a more systematic basis, his editing style has been characterised as being rude.
Equally, people have said rude, even provocative, things about Wik, on occasion. For example, earlier on this list, Jacob Roberson described Wik as, in part, a "troll, vandal, edit warrior, and pov warrior...".
One does not need to say anything about Wik to become the object of his abuse.
perhaps we should do a bit more to rein him in.
Such as, say, discussing the issue with Wik, and thus persuading him to remove some comments from his user page that a variety of people felt were inappropriate. Oh wait, people did that. And it worked...
But he continues to abuse other users.
We have been struggling to establish a process for this.
I thought we had one. According to [[wikipedia:no personal attacks]], "Many Wikipedians remove personal attacks on sight. In extreme cases, users have been banned for repeatedly engaging in personal attacks".
A policy that is not enforced is just words.
Perhaps this policy should be changed, if you don't like its results?
-Martin _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l