If only people spent more time reducing the backlog on requested articles. Those wouldn't be half as controversial as roads and schools and help to improve the coverage of Wikipedia. It's not as if they're writing what they know about anyway, or those road articles would be near FA instead of stubs.
Instead of fussing about improving the AfD process, I'd like to give some thought to improving the article _request_ process. Right now it's actually quite difficult, as you're expected to thread your way through a deeply nested Roget's-Thesaurus-like logical organization of the sum of human knowledge to find the place to insert a request.
I'd like _requesting_ an article to be truly as easy as _creating_ one. That is, I'd a link or button which automatically adds your request to some list somewhere... and lets other people sort 'em out into categories.
I honestly feel that many problem substubs--the ones which give virtually no information that is not in their titles--should be treated either in one of two ways. Many substubs look to me like good- faith efforts to point out a topic that someone would like covered-- but does not have the time or the skills to make a usable start on. If a stub is not a usable launching pad for an article, then it does not serve any function other than pointing out the absence of an article on a worthy topic. It is, then, not an article, not a stub, not the start of an article--it is an article request made in an inappropriate way.
I think the appropriate disposition of such main-namespace-pages is to delete them from the main namespace and re-enter them as article requests.
-- Daniel P. B. Smith, dpbsmith@verizon.net "Elinor Goulding Smith's Great Big Messy Book" is now back in print! Sample chapter at http://world.std.com/~dpbsmith/messy.html Buy it at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1403314063/
How does the request process work anyway? As far as i know, there's a [[Special:Requestedpages]] that remembers all the redlinks on the site.
On 10/1/05, Daniel P. B. Smith dpbsmith@verizon.net wrote:
If only people spent more time reducing the backlog on requested articles. Those wouldn't be half as controversial as roads and schools and help to improve the coverage of Wikipedia. It's not as if they're writing what they know about anyway, or those road articles would be near FA instead of stubs.
Instead of fussing about improving the AfD process, I'd like to give some thought to improving the article _request_ process. Right now it's actually quite difficult, as you're expected to thread your way through a deeply nested Roget's-Thesaurus-like logical organization of the sum of human knowledge to find the place to insert a request.
I'd like _requesting_ an article to be truly as easy as _creating_ one. That is, I'd a link or button which automatically adds your request to some list somewhere... and lets other people sort 'em out into categories.
I honestly feel that many problem substubs--the ones which give virtually no information that is not in their titles--should be treated either in one of two ways. Many substubs look to me like good- faith efforts to point out a topic that someone would like covered-- but does not have the time or the skills to make a usable start on. If a stub is not a usable launching pad for an article, then it does not serve any function other than pointing out the absence of an article on a worthy topic. It is, then, not an article, not a stub, not the start of an article--it is an article request made in an inappropriate way.
I think the appropriate disposition of such main-namespace-pages is to delete them from the main namespace and re-enter them as article requests.
-- Daniel P. B. Smith, dpbsmith@verizon.net "Elinor Goulding Smith's Great Big Messy Book" is now back in print! Sample chapter at http://world.std.com/~dpbsmith/messy.html Buy it at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1403314063/
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There is a page [[Wikipedia:Requested articles]] which lists requests by subject. But there's so many of them it's become unwieldy and hard for newbies to find their way through.
--Mgm
On 10/1/05, Phroziac phroziac@gmail.com wrote:
How does the request process work anyway? As far as i know, there's a [[Special:Requestedpages]] that remembers all the redlinks on the site.
On 10/1/05, Daniel P. B. Smith dpbsmith@verizon.net wrote:
If only people spent more time reducing the backlog on requested articles. Those wouldn't be half as controversial as roads and schools and help to improve the coverage of Wikipedia. It's not as if they're writing what they know about anyway, or those road articles would be near FA instead of stubs.
Instead of fussing about improving the AfD process, I'd like to give some thought to improving the article _request_ process. Right now it's actually quite difficult, as you're expected to thread your way through a deeply nested Roget's-Thesaurus-like logical organization of the sum of human knowledge to find the place to insert a request.
I'd like _requesting_ an article to be truly as easy as _creating_ one. That is, I'd a link or button which automatically adds your request to some list somewhere... and lets other people sort 'em out into categories.
I honestly feel that many problem substubs--the ones which give virtually no information that is not in their titles--should be treated either in one of two ways. Many substubs look to me like good- faith efforts to point out a topic that someone would like covered-- but does not have the time or the skills to make a usable start on. If a stub is not a usable launching pad for an article, then it does not serve any function other than pointing out the absence of an article on a worthy topic. It is, then, not an article, not a stub, not the start of an article--it is an article request made in an inappropriate way.
I think the appropriate disposition of such main-namespace-pages is to delete them from the main namespace and re-enter them as article requests.
-- Daniel P. B. Smith, dpbsmith@verizon.net "Elinor Goulding Smith's Great Big Messy Book" is now back in print! Sample chapter at http://world.std.com/~dpbsmith/messy.html Buy it at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1403314063/
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