Which is the problem when it comes to facts. If flat-earth theory is given the same legitimacy as what science accepts the shape of the earth to be, Wikipedia loses its credibility. Wikipedia is full of conspiracy theories and claims which science would consider to be rubbish. He who shouts the loudest wins on Wikipedia. This is the reason that it has not evolved into real storehouse of knowledge. It is more like USENET groups but in a more academic tone. In other words, it is full of urban legends and anyone who relies on it for facts is walking a dangerous path. It is several weeks since Ed Poor and Angela tried mediating on at least one issue (their mind was made up already but they were pretending to mediate), but when I confronted them with FACTS and EVIDENCE, they quietly withdrew from the mediation. This is a clear case of dishonesty, but never mind. The point is that Wikipedia is full of errors (even in areas where I wasn't involved in any confrontation) and the reason is that it allows those with the loudest voice to win. How about new words - Wikipolice and Wikicop? A Wikicop is one who solves problems by judging someone a winner in a shouting match. -libertarian _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com