I noticed that a picture in an article was no longer displaying when it had been displaying before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menin_Gate
The file is:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Menin_Gate.jpg
But in the article it had been entered as "File:Menin_Gate.jpeg".
Presumably the software treated jpg and jpeg the same, and this changed recently.
Does anyone know where and why? I tried searching in help pages and on Commons, but was getting too many hits. I did notice that the upload process at Commons seemed to change recently to be .JPG (capitals) and not .jpg (lowercase) so maybe it is all part of the same thing?
Anyone know anything about all this, or know where there is a page detailing what changed?
Carcharoth
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.com wrote:
I noticed that a picture in an article was no longer displaying when it had been displaying before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menin_Gate
The file is:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Menin_Gate.jpg
But in the article it had been entered as "File:Menin_Gate.jpeg".
It would seem the Commons image has been deleted: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Menin_Gate.jpeg&acti...
I'm not an admin, so I don't know if it was a duplicate of [[commons:File:Menin Gate.jpg]] or not, but it was deleted for lacking copyright info according to the log.
Going through the history of [[w:Menin Gate]], it looks like it has always referred to the now-deleted image, not the other one.
Presumably the software treated jpg and jpeg the same, and this changed recently.
Nope. Never has. I think there might have been a bug asking for it, but it certainly doesn't do that as of right now.
-Chad
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Chad innocentkiller@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.com wrote:
I noticed that a picture in an article was no longer displaying when it had been displaying before:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menin_Gate
The file is:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Menin_Gate.jpg
But in the article it had been entered as "File:Menin_Gate.jpeg".
It would seem the Commons image has been deleted: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Menin_Gate.jpeg&acti...
Oh. Thanks for working that out. I did check the deletion logs at Commons, but for the .jpg file. Doh!
I'm not an admin, so I don't know if it was a duplicate of [[commons:File:Menin Gate.jpg]] or not, but it was deleted for lacking copyright info according to the log.
From memory, it was a different file. From the log, it lacked
permission, as explained by this tag:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:No_permission_since
Lacking permission appears to mean that old pictures that were uploaded with not enough information to verify that the uploader genuinely had permission are gradually being shuffled out. Rising standards on Commons and a large backlog of old pictures that didn't get the paperwork filled in correctly.
The uploaders are being notified, of course:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ray_Yallop#Images
...but many of them are either infrequent visitors to Commons, or are long gone (some of the pictures being tagged are years old).
Going through the history of [[w:Menin Gate]], it looks like it has always referred to the now-deleted image, not the other one.
That would make sense.
Presumably the software treated jpg and jpeg the same, and this changed recently.
Nope. Never has. I think there might have been a bug asking for it, but it certainly doesn't do that as of right now.
Thanks. It's not critical because there are other pics of the Menin Gate. I was surprised that:
(a) Commons delinker hasn't yet worked out how to remove images from tables, or at least report that deleted images in tables need attention;
and:
(b) That "what links here" for that file doesn't take me to a notice left on the talk page of the person who uploaded that picture:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Menin_Gate.jpeg
So I need to find a Commons admin to find out who uploaded that picture.
Carcharoth
Hmm.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:GlobalUsage&targe...
http://toolserver.org/~delinker/index.php?image=Menin_Gate.jpeg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Menin_Gate.jpeg
Not sure why Commons delinker didn't run over en-wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Database_reports/Articles_contai...
Strange.
Carcharoth