-----Original Message----- From: The Mangoe [mailto:the.mangoe@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 02:32 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Troll, troll, troll
On 6/25/07, Slim Virgin slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/25/07, The Mangoe the.mangoe@gmail.com wrote:
Of course, "troll" often means "person who insists on bringing up something I'm doing wrong even though I keep trying to dismiss him."
It's an accurate use of the term if it's describing someone who keeps resurrecting an issue with a view to causing trouble around it.
That is assuming bad faith, in spades.
Not assuming, Slim Virgin speaks from experience.
Fred
On 6/25/07, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
Of course, "troll" often means "person who insists on bringing up something I'm doing wrong even though I keep trying to dismiss him."
It's an accurate use of the term if it's describing someone who keeps resurrecting an issue with a view to causing trouble around it.
That is assuming bad faith, in spades.
Not assuming, Slim Virgin speaks from experience.
I speak from experience too, Fred; and since my experience goes back before the Great Renaming, I'd say it is quite considerable. And I see a distinct difference between people who are stirring up trouble for their own entertainment, and those who, rightly or wrongly, are persistent in pressing a particular issue. It is a tempting rationalization to call the latter "trolls", but it is way too self-serving a politcal and rhetorical a tactic.
On 6/25/07, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: The Mangoe [mailto:the.mangoe@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 02:32 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Troll, troll, troll
On 6/25/07, Slim Virgin slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/25/07, The Mangoe the.mangoe@gmail.com wrote:
Of course, "troll" often means "person who insists on bringing up something I'm doing wrong even though I keep trying to dismiss him."
It's an accurate use of the term if it's describing someone who keeps resurrecting an issue with a view to causing trouble around it.
That is assuming bad faith, in spades.
Not assuming, Slim Virgin speaks from experience.
Fred
It's an accurate use of the term if it's describing someone who keeps resurrecting an issue with a view to causing trouble around it.
Of course someone who is causing trouble is causing trouble--if you've identified them as a troublemaker, they are what you call a trouble maker.
KP
In which we ask why admins with supposedly strong trolldars get sucked into a thread blatantly trolling for an argument over what a troll is and why the thread is not not immediately closed and the poster blocked?
Other questions include: What is done about trolling admins? Why didn't the admin monitoring this list put an immediate stop to the thread?
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