Almost immediately after creating account for what would be my first time editing wikipedia an admin blocked me indefinitely.
username : Let's Get High And Edit Wikipedia IP : 69.60.118.148 Reason given "stoner..." by "*Freakofnurturehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture" *
This admin describes himself as pissed off and also proudly displays a widget that says he does not do any drugs. I had the impression, perhaps wrongly so, that wikipedia was supposed to be more of an open atmosphere where there isn't such a heavy hand with admin powers. In other words, a place where someone's first visit isn't met with an insult (stoner) by someone claiming to be angry, pissed off and a judeofacist (whatever that is, but it doesn't sound too nice). I really do not see what the problem with my username is. It is silly, perhaps, but not offensive.
Thank you
On Mar 3, 2006, at 4:00 AM, Bacchante Maenad wrote:
Almost immediately after creating account for what would be my first time editing wikipedia an admin blocked me indefinitely.
username : Let's Get High And Edit Wikipedia IP : 69.60.118.148 Reason given "stoner..." by "*Freakofnurturehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture"
This admin describes himself as pissed off and also proudly displays a widget that says he does not do any drugs. I had the impression, perhaps wrongly so, that wikipedia was supposed to be more of an open atmosphere where there isn't such a heavy hand with admin powers. In other words, a place where someone's first visit isn't met with an insult (stoner) by someone claiming to be angry, pissed off and a judeofacist (whatever that is, but it doesn't sound too nice). I really do not see what the problem with my username is. It is silly, perhaps, but not offensive.
Thank you
I'd like to take this opportunity to admonish Freakofnurture for biting a newbie. That said, I don't think his user name is really that offensive or problematic either, but I don't feel strongly enough to think we should accept it. Still, username aside, we definitely need to do something to make this user feel comfortable and welcome again.
I asked the admin who blocked the guy for his reasoning, and on my talkpage, he wrote the following:
--- It's a username that promotes illegal activities and can be seen as an invitation to vandalize the site. Also closely resembles the disruptive "let's vandalize wikipedia" and "let's fuck and rape admins" accounts which are typically blocked automatically within seconds of creation. Basically I'd block anything that started with "Let's" on general principal, because it's probably another sockpuppet of the same select few individuals. Mar. 5, '06 [07:00] <freakofnurxture|talk> ---
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anittas&redirect=no
It looks like Mr. Jimbo hired cops to go after Wikipedians that promote "illegal" activities, tho I'm not sure where these illegal activities are illegal. USA, Netherlands, the Moon?
Anittas.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anittas"
--- Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
On Mar 3, 2006, at 4:00 AM, Bacchante Maenad wrote:
Almost immediately after creating account for what
would be my
first time editing wikipedia an admin blocked me
indefinitely.
username : Let's Get High And Edit Wikipedia IP : 69.60.118.148 Reason given "stoner..." by
"*Freakofnurturehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture"
This admin describes himself as pissed off and
also proudly displays a
widget that says he does not do any drugs. I had
the impression,
perhaps wrongly so, that wikipedia was supposed to be more
of an open
atmosphere where there isn't such a heavy hand with admin
powers. In other
words, a place where someone's first visit isn't met with
an insult (stoner) by
someone claiming to be angry, pissed off and a
judeofacist
(whatever that is, but it doesn't sound too nice). I really do
not see what the
problem with my username is. It is silly, perhaps, but
not offensive.
Thank you
I'd like to take this opportunity to admonish Freakofnurture for biting a newbie. That said, I don't think his user name is really that offensive or problematic either, but I don't feel strongly enough to think we should accept it. Still, username aside, we definitely need to do something to make this user feel comfortable and welcome again.
-- Philip L. Welch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Philwelch
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Speaking of silly...
I got attacked for http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:The_Cunctator&oldid=38072...
And freakofnature's page looks like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture
??
ObSheesh: Sheesh.
I wonder when the action of editing a wikipage became considered attacking
On 3/5/06, The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking of silly...
I got attacked for
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:The_Cunctator&oldid=38072...
And freakofnature's page looks like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture
??
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On 3/5/06, Drini drini wpdrini@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder when the action of editing a wikipage became considered attacking
No, he got attacked good and proper, see the list archives for details (search on "retarded" and "fascism" perhaps...)
Steve
Oh, I didnt' consider the editing of my page attacking. It was the "if you put it back to the way you want you're going to get into trouble" that i considered attacking.
On 3/4/06, Drini drini wpdrini@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder when the action of editing a wikipage became considered attacking
On 3/5/06, The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking of silly...
I got attacked for
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:The_Cunctator&oldid=38072...
And freakofnature's page looks like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture
??
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On 3/4/06, The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
Speaking of silly...
I got attacked for http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:The_Cunctator&oldid=38072...
And freakofnature's page looks like
Well at least he's not going around deleting userboxes...
(trying to find a bright side...)
Steve
The Cunctator wrote:
Speaking of silly...
I got attacked for http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:The_Cunctator&oldid=38072...
"This user is a non-member of the Retarded Fascism Unit."
And freakofnature's page looks like
"This administrator knows how to spell his fucking words." "This user is a Judeofascist." "This user is an anarcho-capitalist, which some feel is unwiki-like, but he does not give a fuck about them." &c..
??
ObSheesh: Sheesh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sam_Hocevar/burninhell
PLEASE, when you edit Wikipedia, leave your POVs at the door...
On 3/5/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
The Cunctator wrote:
Speaking of silly...
I got attacked for http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:The_Cunctator&oldid=38072...
"This user is a non-member of the Retarded Fascism Unit."
And freakofnature's page looks like
"This administrator knows how to spell his fucking words." "This user is a Judeofascist." "This user is an anarcho-capitalist, which some feel is unwiki-like, but he does not give a fuck about them." &c..
??
ObSheesh: Sheesh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sam_Hocevar/burninhell
PLEASE, when you edit Wikipedia, leave your POVs at the door...
I think the idea is that articles are supposed to be neutral. It's silly to expect Wikipedians not to have a point of view.
I think it's appropriate to Wikipedians to express their opinions about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on their userpage.
Much as I enjoy contributing to the gentle banter of this list, and editing various bits of the Wikiverse, I'm taking a break for a couple of months. Osaka, Guernsey, Dublin, Shrewsbury, Charleston, Toronto and other bits. I get back in May, and I'll catch up then.
I'm taking a camera and tripod with me, and I'll see if I can fill a few holes in our free photographic coverage.
In the meantime, you'll have to rely on your own resources for comic relief.
Cheers all!
Peter (Skyring)
On Mar 4, 2006, at 11:36 PM, The Cunctator wrote:
I think the idea is that articles are supposed to be neutral. It's silly to expect Wikipedians not to have a point of view.
I think it's appropriate to Wikipedians to express their opinions about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on their userpage.
It's appropriate for Wikipedians to express their opinions about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on their userpage. It's inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile fashion. That applies to you and to Freakofnurture.
--- Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
On Mar 4, 2006, at 11:36 PM, The Cunctator wrote:
I think the idea is that articles are supposed to
be neutral. It's
silly to expect Wikipedians not to have a point of
view.
I think it's appropriate to Wikipedians to express
their opinions
about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on
their userpage.
It's appropriate for Wikipedians to express their opinions about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on their userpage. It's inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile fashion. That applies to you and to Freakofnurture.
Is it what you say official? If it is, then I would like to see this policy. Or perhaps you are Jimbo's right hand and have the authority to say what is, and what is not, appropriate. I think that the most appropriate thing for people to do, is to mind their own business when something is not harming anyone. And if Jimbo is Libertarian, as someone suggested in the past, then he should start acting like one.
Anittas.
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On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:27 PM, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wrote:
--- Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
It's appropriate for Wikipedians to express their opinions about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on their userpage. It's inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile fashion. That applies to you and to Freakofnurture.
Is it what you say official?
No. It is, however, my opinion, which makes it correct in every meaningful sense.
--- Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:27 PM, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wrote:
--- Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
It's appropriate for Wikipedians to express their opinions about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on their
userpage.
It's inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile fashion. That applies to you and to Freakofnurture.
Is it what you say official?
No. It is, however, my opinion, which makes it correct in every meaningful sense.
Then make it sound like an opinion. In my opinion, your opinion is not correct.
Anittas.
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It's inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile fashion. That applies to you and to Freakofnurture.
Stefan wrote:
Is it what you say official? If it is, then I would like to see this policy. Or perhaps you are Jimbo's right hand and have the authority to say what is, and what is not, appropriate. I think that the most appropriate thing for people to do, is to mind their own business when something is not harming anyone. And if Jimbo is Libertarian, as someone suggested in the past, then he should start acting like one.
If you're asking me to assert an absolute right of infantile stupidity and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then you won't get it, sorry.
--Jimbo
--- Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
It's inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile fashion. That applies to you and to Freakofnurture.
Stefan wrote:
Is it what you say official? If it is, then I
would
like to see this policy. Or perhaps you are
Jimbo's
right hand and have the authority to say what is,
and
what is not, appropriate. I think that the most appropriate thing for people to do, is to mind
their
own business when something is not harming anyone.
And
if Jimbo is Libertarian, as someone suggested in
the
past, then he should start acting like one.
If you're asking me to assert an absolute right of infantile stupidity and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then you won't get it, sorry.
If the condition of not harming others is fulfilled, as it was in this case, then people should be allowed to their business. That's my argument.
--Jimbo
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If you're asking me to assert an absolute right of infantile stupidity and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then you won't get it, sorry.
If the condition of not harming others is fulfilled, as it was in this case, then people should be allowed to their business. That's my argument.
Infantile userpages harm all of us by bringing disrepute to the community and to the project.
--- Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
If you're asking me to assert an absolute right
of
infantile stupidity and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then you won't get it, sorry.
If the condition of not harming others is
fulfilled,
as it was in this case, then people should be
allowed
to their business. That's my argument.
Infantile userpages harm all of us by bringing disrepute to the community and to the project.
No, it doesn't. You just mind your own business. Whether you like a nickname or not, should not be an issue. Corny, annoying, and childish nicknames should be allowed.
-- Philip L. Welch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Philwelch
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On 3/6/06, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wizzard_bane@yahoo.com wrote:
No, it doesn't. You just mind your own business. Whether you like a nickname or not, should not be an issue. Corny, annoying, and childish nicknames should be allowed.
I don't think "you just mind your own business while just I urinate in this public square" is a strategy that usually works very well. YMMV.
Steve
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STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA stated for the record:
--- Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
If you're asking me to assert an absolute right of infantile stupidity and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then you won't get it, sorry.
If the condition of not harming others is fulfilled, as it was in this case, then people should be allowed to their business. That's my argument.
Infantile userpages harm all of us by bringing disrepute to the community and to the project.
No, it doesn't. You just mind your own business. Whether you like a nickname or not, should not be an issue. Corny, annoying, and childish nicknames should be allowed.
You're impressively good at argument by assertion, but I'm afraid you'll find that simply stating your unsupported opinion isn't a terribly effective way of persuading us, especially when your unsupported opinion directly contradicts the project policies we have adopted by consensus.
- -- Sean Barrett | No, Grasshopper! Carry hibachi by handles! sean@epoptic.org |
On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:32 PM, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wrote:
Infantile userpages harm all of us by bringing disrepute to the community and to the project.
No, it doesn't. You just mind your own business. Whether you like a nickname or not, should not be an issue. Corny, annoying, and childish nicknames should be allowed.
Please take this as a polite yet insistent exhortation: *actually read my emails before you reply to them*. I was talking about userpages, not usernames. If you lack the effort or the capacity to properly comprehend what other people say do not waste your time attempting to contradict them.
--- Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:32 PM, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wrote:
Infantile userpages harm all of us by bringing disrepute to the community and to the project.
No, it doesn't. You just mind your own business. Whether you like a nickname or not, should not be
an
issue. Corny, annoying, and childish nicknames
should
be allowed.
Please take this as a polite yet insistent exhortation: *actually read my emails before you reply to them*. I was talking about userpages, not usernames. If you lack the effort or the capacity to properly comprehend what other people say do not waste your time attempting to contradict them.
Excuse me, but you were the one who replied to one of my messages, and in that message, I was referring to nicknames -- not userpages. In that case, it was you who went off-topic, not I. I talked about the nickname. If you want to talk about userpages, do so, but don't reply to one of my messages where I talk about nicknames! And don't be rude to people!
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On Mar 6, 2006, at 1:28 PM, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wrote:
Excuse me, but you were the one who replied to one of my messages, and in that message, I was referring to nicknames -- not userpages. In that case, it was you who went off-topic, not I. I talked about the nickname. If you want to talk about userpages, do so, but don't reply to one of my messages where I talk about nicknames! And don't be rude to people!
I just checked my records, and you are mistaken, although since this thread was originally about usernames and branched out several side discussions, any confusion is understandable.
For your convenience, here is the conversation, in order:
Cunctuator:
I think it's appropriate to Wikipedians to express their opinions about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on their userpage.
Phil:
It's appropriate for Wikipedians to express their opinions about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on their userpage. It's inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile fashion. That applies to you and to Freakofnurture.
Stefan:
Is it what you say official? If it is, then I would like to see this policy. Or perhaps you are Jimbo's right hand and have the authority to say what is, and what is not, appropriate. I think that the most appropriate thing for people to do, is to mind their own business when something is not harming anyone. And if Jimbo is Libertarian, as someone suggested in the past, then he should start acting like one.
Jimbo:
If you're asking me to assert an absolute right of infantile stupidity and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then you won't get it, sorry.
Stefan:
If the condition of not harming others is fulfilled, as it was in this case, then people should be allowed to their business. That's my argument.
Phil:
Infantile userpages harm all of us by bringing disrepute to the community and to the project.
Stefan:
No, it doesn't. You just mind your own business. Whether you like a nickname or not, should not be an issue. Corny, annoying, and childish nicknames should be allowed.
--- Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
On Mar 6, 2006, at 1:28 PM, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wrote:
Excuse me, but you were the one who replied to one
of
my messages, and in that message, I was referring
to
nicknames -- not userpages. In that case, it was
you
who went off-topic, not I. I talked about the nickname. If you want to talk about userpages, do
so,
but don't reply to one of my messages where I talk about nicknames! And don't be rude to people!
I just checked my records, and you are mistaken, although since this thread was originally about usernames and branched out several side discussions, any confusion is understandable.
For your convenience, here is the conversation, in order:
Cunctuator:
I think it's appropriate to Wikipedians to express
their opinions
about the governance and rules of Wikipedia on
their userpage.
Phil:
It's appropriate for Wikipedians to express their
opinions about the
governance and rules of Wikipedia on their
userpage. It's
inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile
fashion. That applies
to you and to Freakofnurture.
Stefan:
Is it what you say official? If it is, then I
would
like to see this policy. Or perhaps you are
Jimbo's
right hand and have the authority to say what is,
and
what is not, appropriate. I think that the most appropriate thing for people to do, is to mind
their
own business when something is not harming anyone.
And
if Jimbo is Libertarian, as someone suggested in
the
past, then he should start acting like one.
Jimbo:
If you're asking me to assert an absolute right of
infantile stupidity
and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then
you won't get it,
sorry.
Stefan:
If the condition of not harming others is
fulfilled,
as it was in this case, then people should be
allowed
to their business. That's my argument.
Phil:
Infantile userpages harm all of us by bringing
disrepute to the
community and to the project.
Stefan:
No, it doesn't. You just mind your own business. Whether you like a nickname or not, should not be
an
issue. Corny, annoying, and childish nicknames
should
be allowed.
Okay, the way I see it is this: the discussion started with a complaint about a nickname that was blocked. I got involved and messaged that admin, etc. Somewhere on the way, you guys started talking about userpages. I don't know how it's possible to change the topic like that and I don't read all messages, but anyway; you said something about userpages and I made a reply, and also mentioned Jimbo's name. My comment to Jimbo was meant to refer to the original topic, i.e., the nickname conflict. He then replied, and I replied back to him, meaning for my comment to refer to the nickname argument. You then thought that I replied to the userpage argument, which is understandable, because I didn't point out what I was referring to. That's what caused the confusion and perhaps it was mainly my fault, because I wasn't clear enough. It's no biggie, tho. I just wish people would stay on topic all the time.
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On Mar 6, 2006, at 1:56 PM, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wrote:
He then replied, and I replied back to him, meaning for my comment to refer to the nickname argument. You then thought that I replied to the userpage argument, which is understandable, because I didn't point out what I was referring to. That's what caused the confusion and perhaps it was mainly my fault, because I wasn't clear enough. It's no biggie, tho. I just wish people would stay on topic all the time.
OK, we were reading and replying in an inconsistent context. Instead of staying on topic, let's stray off topic, but change the subject line when we do so :)
On 3/6/06, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wizzard_bane@yahoo.com wrote:
got involved and messaged that admin, etc. Somewhere on the way, you guys started talking about userpages. I don't know how it's possible to change the topic like that and I don't read all messages, but anyway;
<snip>
no biggie, tho. I just wish people would stay on topic all the time.
Are you a troll? Just curious.
Steve
--- Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/6/06, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wizzard_bane@yahoo.com wrote:
got involved and messaged that admin, etc.
Somewhere
on the way, you guys started talking about
userpages.
I don't know how it's possible to change the topic like that and I don't read all messages, but
anyway;
<snip> > no biggie, tho. I just wish people would stay on topic > all the time.
Are you a troll? Just curious.
If you are asking whether I like to provoke people and arguments, then yes, sometimes I like to do that, but not without purpose. Is that wrong?
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On 3/6/06, STEFAN CLAUDIU TIULEA wizzard_bane@yahoo.com wrote:
If you are asking whether I like to provoke people and arguments, then yes, sometimes I like to do that, but not without purpose. Is that wrong?
Well, I don't do moral decisions, but you may not be getting many more replies from me or others :)
Steve
On 3/6/06, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
It's inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile fashion. That applies to you and to Freakofnurture.
Stefan wrote:
Is it what you say official? If it is, then I would like to see this policy. Or perhaps you are Jimbo's right hand and have the authority to say what is, and what is not, appropriate. I think that the most appropriate thing for people to do, is to mind their own business when something is not harming anyone. And if Jimbo is Libertarian, as someone suggested in the past, then he should start acting like one.
If you're asking me to assert an absolute right of infantile stupidity and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then you won't get it, sorry.
Whoa, where did the freedom to stalk and harass other users come into this conversation?
Hello, straw man, burning in the square.
The Cunctator wrote:
On 3/6/06, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
It's inappropriate for them to do so in an infantile fashion. That applies to you and to Freakofnurture.
Stefan wrote:
Is it what you say official? If it is, then I would like to see this policy. Or perhaps you are Jimbo's right hand and have the authority to say what is, and what is not, appropriate. I think that the most appropriate thing for people to do, is to mind their own business when something is not harming anyone. And if Jimbo is Libertarian, as someone suggested in the past, then he should start acting like one.
If you're asking me to assert an absolute right of infantile stupidity and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then you won't get it, sorry.
Whoa, where did the freedom to stalk and harass other users come into this conversation?
Hello, straw man, burning in the square.
Is it acceptable to urinate on it if I'm trying to put it out?
On 3/7/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, straw man, burning in the square.
Is it acceptable to urinate on it if I'm trying to put it out?
Fine with me, but I think we should take a *straw poll*.
Steve
On 3/7/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/7/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, straw man, burning in the square.
Is it acceptable to urinate on it if I'm trying to put it out?
Fine with me, but I think we should take a *straw poll*.
That was an egregious use of "scare crowtes".
The Cunctator wrote:
On 3/7/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/7/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, straw man, burning in the square.
Is it acceptable to urinate on it if I'm trying to put it out?
Fine with me, but I think we should take a *straw poll*.
That was an egregious use of "scare crowtes".
Alright, enough bad puns. Back to the matter at hand:
The Cunctator wrote:
On 3/6/06, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
<snip>
Stefan wrote:
<snip>
And if Jimbo is Libertarian, as someone suggested in the past, then he should start acting like one.
If you're asking me to assert an absolute right of infantile stupidity and freedom to stalk and harass other users, then you won't get it, sorry.
Whoa, where did the freedom to stalk and harass other users come into this conversation?
I believe that this would depend on your definition of "Libertarian".
G'day Bacchante,
Almost immediately after creating account for what would be my first time editing wikipedia an admin blocked me indefinitely.
username : Let's Get High And Edit Wikipedia IP : 69.60.118.148 Reason given "stoner..." by "*Freakofnurturehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Freakofnurture" *
This admin describes himself as pissed off and also proudly displays a widget that says he does not do any drugs. I had the impression,
You aren't trying to imply that these silly widgets make people look silly, are you? Golly, gosh.
perhaps wrongly so, that wikipedia was supposed to be more of an open atmosphere where there isn't such a heavy hand with admin powers. In
Registering an account is incredibly easy. What's to stop you registering a new one, with a different username?
other words, a place where someone's first visit isn't met with an insult (stoner) by someone claiming to be angry, pissed off and a judeofacist (whatever that is, but it doesn't sound too nice). I really do not see what the problem with my username is. It is silly, perhaps, but not offensive.
I'll be honest with you. I would not have blocked that username myself. I don't personally consider it a violation of our username policy. However, I *also* would not have *registered* that username, because it is, frankly, a very stupid username indeed.
Chalk it up as a character-building experience: you ran into someone who did something you didn't like (welcome to the world!), and you got the opportunity to choose a decent username. This time tomorrow, you'll be a much better person because of it.
-- Mark Gallagher "What? I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!" - Danger Mouse
Please try choosing a better username. It's reasonable for joke usernames to be questioned, and it's very easy to register a new one.