[[User BuddhaInside]]'s antics on wiki are becoming a serious cause for concern.
1. His has devoted much of his time to creating [[List of . . . ]] pages, and when his generally ridiculed pages are deleted, he tries to create yet more lists or bizarre renamed version of the list proposed for deletion.
For example, he created a [[List of heterosexuals]] which was generally dismissed as nonsensical. When 28 people voted on it, after it was listed on the VfD, 20 voted to delete (accompanied with scathing comments about the list), 1 said 'delete or rename', 7 said keep. The debate went on for eight days. When it finally was deleted, he went ballistic, claiming that there was no consensus for its deletion (71%, or 75%, depending on how you interpret the votes, said delete! No consensus???)
He then tried to edit the [[Consensus]] page to redefine what a consensus is, forcing the comment Angela,
Changing the definition on the [[consensus]] page won't help Buddha . . . [[User:Angela|Angela]] 18:04, Sep 14, 2003 (UTC)
He also created * [[List of heterosexuals]] not notable in connection with their heterosexuality]] * [[List of heterosexuals not noted for their heterosexuality]] (I deleted these on the 6th. They were simply an attempt by him to create alternative pages with the same contents as [[List of heterosexuals]] but without the VfD boilerplate reference.)
His latest lists are [[List of famous black people]] and [[List of famous white people]] which again have been listed by people on the VfD page. He is the only defender of the lists. Among the criticism made is
# This is getting ridiculous. The next thing will be 'people with two arms', or 'list of people without disabilities'. Please delete these stupid lists. Mintguy 18:51, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)
The [[Protected Page]] contains -
* List of famous heterosexual people. Blanked and protected. Repeatedly deleted page that keeps being resurrected. Angela 02:51, 8 Sep 2003 (UTC) o This page had a new title and new content, making it completely distinct from any prior page. In addition, consensus was NOT reached on the deletion of the prior page. -BuddhaInside
Today the same page contains:
* [[List of famous white people]], [[List of famous black people]] - more trolling attempts by User:BuddhaInside; listed on Vfd. - Hephaestos 18:57, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)
2. He is determined to silence any comments on his actions by deleting /all/ comments on his talk page, even though he is involved in many controversies that people wish to ask him about. Erik summed up the situation on his talk page with the following:
BuddhaInside, refusing to communicate with other users on your talk page by consistently blanking it is not in the spirit of Wikiquette and WikiLove, which are fundamental concepts of the Wikipedia community. Nor is your behavior on the silly List of heterosexuals. You are welcome to make contributions to Wikipedia, but if you continue with your current trolling, it is likely that you will end up being banned. Please focus on useful contributions instead of alienating other contributors. Thank you! Note that this page might be protected if you continue to blank it, to guarantee that at least these messages are a matter of public record.—Eloquence 00:45, Sep 7, 2003 (UTC)
His response, as with every other comment, was to blank it.
His constant creating of frankly ridiculous pages, largely as revenge for the deletion of his beloved [[List of heterosexuals]], is getting absurd and annoying many users who find themselves undoing his nonsense and cleaning up his mess. His refusal to tolerate comments on his talk page is outrageous. Among users who have criticised his behavour on a range of pages are
Ark30inf Eloquence Angela Martin Hephaestos Tweak Wiwaxia
Unwilling though I am to contemplate it, I can't help wondering if this user, with his preoccupation with lists and with provocatively challenging people, and with blanking his page, is merely a troll. I can think of at least two trolls in the past who specialised in list making and blanking their user pages. At the very least, if BuddhaInside is a /real/ but seriously misguided contributor, he needs to be told forceably and unambiguously by the community that his behaviour is unacceptable and /has/ to change if he wants to remain a contributor.
JT
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[[User BuddhaInside]]'s antics on wiki are becoming a serious cause for concern.
- His has devoted much of his time to creating
[[List of . . . ]] pages, and when his generally ridiculed pages are deleted, he tries to create yet more lists or bizarre renamed version of the list proposed for deletion.
For example, he created a [[List of heterosexuals]] which was generally dismissed as nonsensical. When 28 people voted on it, after it was listed on the VfD, 20 voted to delete (accompanied with scathing comments about the list), 1 said 'delete or rename', 7 said keep. The debate went on for eight days. When it finally was deleted, he went ballistic, claiming that there was no consensus for its deletion (71%, or 75%, depending on how you interpret the votes, said delete! No consensus???)
He then tried to edit the [[Consensus]] page to redefine what a consensus is, forcing the comment Angela,
Changing the definition on the [[consensus]] page won't help Buddha . . . [[User:Angela|Angela]] 18:04, Sep 14, 2003 (UTC)
He also created * [[List of heterosexuals]] not notable in connection with their heterosexuality]]
- [[List of heterosexuals not noted for their
heterosexuality]] (I deleted these on the 6th. They were simply an attempt by him to create alternative pages with the same contents as [[List of heterosexuals]] but without the VfD boilerplate reference.)
His latest lists are [[List of famous black people]] and [[List of famous white people]] which again have been listed by people on the VfD page. He is the only defender of the lists. Among the criticism made is
# This is getting ridiculous. The next thing will be 'people with two arms', or 'list of people without disabilities'. Please delete these stupid lists. Mintguy 18:51, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)
The [[Protected Page]] contains -
* List of famous heterosexual people. Blankedand protected. Repeatedly deleted page that keeps being resurrected. Angela 02:51, 8 Sep 2003 (UTC) o This page had a new title and new content, making it completely distinct from any prior page. In addition, consensus was NOT reached on the deletion of the prior page. -BuddhaInside
Today the same page contains:
- [[List of famous white people]], [[List of famous
black people]] - more trolling attempts by User:BuddhaInside; listed on Vfd. - Hephaestos 18:57, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)
- He is determined to silence any comments on his
actions by deleting /all/ comments on his talk page, even though he is involved in many controversies that people wish to ask him about. Erik summed up the situation on his talk page with the following:
BuddhaInside, refusing to communicate with other users on your talk page by consistently blanking it is not in the spirit of Wikiquette and WikiLove, which are fundamental concepts of the Wikipedia community. Nor is your behavior on the silly List of heterosexuals. You are welcome to make contributions to Wikipedia, but if you continue with your current trolling, it is likely that you will end up being banned. Please focus on useful contributions instead of alienating other contributors. Thank you! Note that this page might be protected if you continue to blank it, to guarantee that at least these messages are a matter of public record.�Eloquence 00:45, Sep 7, 2003 (UTC)
His response, as with every other comment, was to blank it.
His constant creating of frankly ridiculous pages, largely as revenge for the deletion of his beloved [[List of heterosexuals]], is getting absurd and annoying many users who find themselves undoing his nonsense and cleaning up his mess. His refusal to tolerate comments on his talk page is outrageous. Among users who have criticised his behavour on a range of pages are
Ark30inf Eloquence Angela Martin Hephaestos Tweak Wiwaxia
Unwilling though I am to contemplate it, I can't help wondering if this user, with his preoccupation with lists and with provocatively challenging people, and with blanking his page, is merely a troll. I can think of at least two trolls in the past who specialised in list making and blanking their user pages. At the very least, if BuddhaInside is a /real/ but seriously misguided contributor, he needs to be told forceably and unambiguously by the community that his behaviour is unacceptable and /has/ to change if he wants to remain a contributor.
JT
Yes, I agree that BuddhaInside is misguided, and possibly a troll. But we shouldn't immediately ban him. I think that it is a real possibility that he merely has a misunderstanding of the policies of Wikipedia. I could see how an honest misinterperatation of the WikiLove page could lead someone to believe that we shouldn't critisize people. LDan
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He then tried to edit the [[Consensus]] page to redefine what a consensus is, forcing the comment Angela,
Changing the definition on the [[consensus]] page won't help Buddha . . . [[User:Angela|Angela]] 18:04, Sep 14, 2003 (UTC)
In spite of all the irritation he has caused, I would still have been inclined to give him the benefit of doubt, but the above cited act brands him as a troll in my opinion.
Mike AKA CyberMaus