We agree its good to keep the moral highground, but my moral
highground *isn't situational --call it "abstract ideals" if you like.
Everyone has ideals, only the most narrow-minded, agenda-driven of minds consider the basis for these to be limited to... shal we say, situational isolationism.
The issue isn't with the ideals (abstract or otherwise), but rather, to whenever there is a risk for these to serve merely as a pretext for a highly a *selective* approach, one wherein these ideals are juxtaposed, transposed, and superimposed to any concrete case in an un-balanced, inaccurate, and un-objective way.
Rationality goes hand in hand with relationality. Unfortunately, empathy often isn't enough to bring a sympathy which is balanced, be it for those absorbed in abstract ideals, petty proceduralism, or both. The forest *and* the tress, in other words. Either one, in itself, is obviously insufficient and self-defeating.
El_C
El C wrote:
We agree its good to keep the moral highground, but my moral
highground *isn't situational --call it "abstract ideals" if you like.
Everyone has ideals, only the most narrow-minded, agenda-driven of minds consider the basis for these to be limited to... shal we say, situational isolationism.
The issue isn't with the ideals (abstract or otherwise), but rather, to whenever there is a risk for these to serve merely as a pretext for a highly a *selective* approach, one wherein these ideals are juxtaposed, transposed, and superimposed to any concrete case in an un-balanced, inaccurate, and un-objective way.
Rationality goes hand in hand with relationality. Unfortunately, empathy often isn't enough to bring a sympathy which is balanced, be it for those absorbed in abstract ideals, petty proceduralism, or both. The forest *and* the tress, in other words. Either one, in itself, is obviously insufficient and self-defeating.
Having frequently engaged in such pedantic drivel myself, I can perfectly understand what you say.
Unfortunately, sometimes "a cigar is only a cigar".
Ec
--- El C el.ceeh@gmail.com wrote:
Everyone has ideals, only the most narrow-minded, agenda-driven of minds consider the basis for these to be limited to... shal we say, situational isolationism.
Above rhetoric translated: "Everyone has an agenda, and [epithet] [epithet] view agendas to be limited to situational ethics in isolated cases."
I didnt say one agenda was limited to one particular modality -- I said switching selectively between a principled modality and a selectively principled modality is, by definition, situational ethics. Particularly when a couple of us are clear about other cases of "hate lists" -- all of which were handled through normal process --when there finally was one instituted. Again, the issue is whether the process works or not.
The issue isn't with the ideals (abstract or otherwise), but rather, to whenever there is a risk for these to serve merely as a pretext for a highly a *selective* approach, one wherein these ideals are juxtaposed, transposed, and superimposed to any concrete case in an un-balanced, inaccurate, and un-objective way.
Above rhetoric translated: "Due process carries the risk of having bad results, and thus there ought to be limits on it." Ben Franklin might say something about "deserving of neither."
Rationality goes hand in hand with relationality. Unfortunately, empathy often isn't enough to bring a sympathy which is balanced, be it for those absorbed in abstract ideals, petty proceduralism, or both. The forest *and* the tress, in other words. Either one, in itself, is obviously insufficient and self-defeating.
Above rhetoric translated, transliterated: "Rationality has the unfortunate problem of being applied in a manner which may be disagreeable to me. Feely-feelings sometimes lead to bias, [epithet], [eptithet], etc. In a balanced approach can lead to imbalance."
I like your confusing style, but I have to take it in the context of your less rational appeals. The above translations simple reflect my "petty" abstraction of terms for terms. Mutatis mutandis.
SV
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