In a message dated 1/13/2009 5:40:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, morven@gmail.com writes:
We were, I thought, talking of photos that Corbis does not own the rights to and never did, and is certainly not the creator of.>>
--------------------------------- If I take a photo of your photo, I own the photo that I created. As does Corbis. If they scan, upload, duplicate, xerox, or in any other way, create a new physical item, even if it's an exact copy of some other item, they own that new item.
You should not ethically use their item, without crediting them. That is not the same as a copyright, and just because you make a copy doesn't mean you create a new copyright to that copy. It certainly has no bearing whatsoever on the state of the original item.
If someone wants to use a Corbis created copy, simply because it's easier than trying to find another copy of that same thing, that Corbis didn't create, then that's their problem for being lazy.
That doesn't however prevent anyone from linking to that image, describing it, or using it under fair use. However to simply take the image, use it, and neither give them credit, nor state it was even from a Corbis repository would not be ethical. However I see no problem with adding a link and saying "Here's a picture that Corbis copied, from a public source, showing President Bush eating a hot dog".
Convenience links don't mean "use it however you want". They mean "use it but try to be fair to us".
Will Johnson
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2009/1/14 WJhonson@aol.com:
If I take a photo of your photo, I own the photo that I created. As does Corbis. If they scan, upload, duplicate, xerox, or in any other way, create a new physical item, even if it's an exact copy of some other item, they own that new item. You should not ethically use their item, without crediting them. That is not the same as a copyright, and just because you make a copy doesn't mean you create a new copyright to that copy. It certainly has no bearing whatsoever on the state of the original item. If someone wants to use a Corbis created copy, simply because it's easier than trying to find another copy of that same thing, that Corbis didn't create, then that's their problem for being lazy.
This does not square with copyright law in any way. It's also arguable morally, given their clear and blatant attempts to enclose the public domain.
- d.