I'm posting not to any particular thread, but separately, with a plea to everyone on this list to remember that we are all on the same side, that we should approach each other with love and respect and understand that on many issues, there are multiple perspectives that *even when we don't agree with them* are at least grounded in values that we share to such a degree that we can respect our colleagues.
It pains me to see good people getting too heated, because such heat tends to cause people to dig in their heels and get in the way of good mutual consensus building.
Please, be kind to each other.
--Jimbo