Hi,
I didn't know where else to go with this question. Is it just me, and my geriatric MAC computer, but why is Wikipedia taking a very long time to open and to change pages? Is anyone else having this problem? This has just been happening for me in the last few days.
Thanks,
Marc Riddell
I've been hearing about a lot of people having similar experiences. I think Tim Starling altered the parser and that might be the cause of it, but I'm not sure. Does anyone else know what's up?
On 11/22/07, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Hi,
I didn't know where else to go with this question. Is it just me, and my geriatric MAC computer, but why is Wikipedia taking a very long time to open and to change pages? Is anyone else having this problem? This has just been happening for me in the last few days.
Thanks,
Marc Riddell
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I've found it slower, and I'm on a brand new Mac. Pages often hang for a long time with just the beginning of the box all the article text is contained in. Gods help you if you're running on a slow connection.
On Nov 22, 2007 8:14 AM, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
I've been hearing about a lot of people having similar experiences. I think Tim Starling altered the parser and that might be the cause of it, but I'm not sure. Does anyone else know what's up?
On 11/22/07, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Hi,
I didn't know where else to go with this question. Is it just me, and my geriatric MAC computer, but why is Wikipedia taking a very long time to
open
and to change pages? Is anyone else having this problem? This has just
been
happening for me in the last few days.
Thanks,
Marc Riddell
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Casey Brown wrote:
I've been hearing about a lot of people having similar experiences. I think Tim Starling altered the parser and that might be the cause of it, but I'm not sure. Does anyone else know what's up?
Such little faith. I said I was making it faster, not slower. We're still on r27647 for your information. The graphs look pretty normal, have you tried pinging to check for packet loss?
-- Tim Starling
On 11/22/07, Tim Starling tstarling@wikimedia.org wrote:
Casey Brown wrote:
I've been hearing about a lot of people having similar experiences. I think Tim Starling altered the parser and that might be the cause of it, but I'm not sure. Does anyone else know what's up?
Such little faith. I said I was making it faster, not slower. We're still on r27647 for your information. The graphs look pretty normal, have you tried pinging to check for packet loss?
-- Tim Starling
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Such little faith in *my* comment. :-) I said that it 'might' be the cause. Also, it may have been that the pages *are* loading faster, but it's just loading in a different order than usual and it /seems/ to other people that they're slower. But my apologies, I guess that that was not the cause of it.
Such little faith. I said I was making it faster, not slower. We're still on r27647 for your information. The graphs look pretty normal, have you tried pinging to check for packet loss?
They all say that. ;) The fact that the new preprocessor isn't actually running on the WMF servers is a pretty good excuse, though...
I usually read WP at home through a 28800pbs soda straw and here is my experience using Firefox 2...
Trying to load a WP page the first time the browser is started or after clearing the cache is dog slow. After that they load reasonable.
If during an initial "dog slow" load, the modem is disconnected, the page pops right up.
Someone on IRC said this might be because Firefox and most other browsers always wait for all CSS to load before rendering the page and it might be the codepages that are loading slower then the main text. Future loads are faster because the CSS is cached. Same person also claimed that this has been corrected in Gecko 1.9 but I noticed no difference when reading WP with a pre release of Firefox 3.
Is there maybe some problem with prefetching? Have you tried turning off prefetching and seeing if that speeds things up?
Quoting Ron Ritzman ritzman@gmail.com:
I usually read WP at home through a 28800pbs soda straw and here is my experience using Firefox 2...
Trying to load a WP page the first time the browser is started or after clearing the cache is dog slow. After that they load reasonable.
If during an initial "dog slow" load, the modem is disconnected, the page pops right up.
Someone on IRC said this might be because Firefox and most other browsers always wait for all CSS to load before rendering the page and it might be the codepages that are loading slower then the main text. Future loads are faster because the CSS is cached. Same person also claimed that this has been corrected in Gecko 1.9 but I noticed no difference when reading WP with a pre release of Firefox 3.
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on 11/22/07 7:15 PM, joshua.zelinsky@yale.edu at joshua.zelinsky@yale.edu wrote:
Is there maybe some problem with prefetching? Have you tried turning off prefetching and seeing if that speeds things up?
I honestly don't know what that is, Joshua. I'm about as computer-challenged as they come. One thing I do know is that it started happening just about the time that the banner giving the number of donations starting appearing at the top. Who knows?
Marc Riddell
Quoting Ron Ritzman ritzman@gmail.com:
I usually read WP at home through a 28800pbs soda straw and here is my experience using Firefox 2...
Trying to load a WP page the first time the browser is started or after clearing the cache is dog slow. After that they load reasonable.
If during an initial "dog slow" load, the modem is disconnected, the page pops right up.
Someone on IRC said this might be because Firefox and most other browsers always wait for all CSS to load before rendering the page and it might be the codepages that are loading slower then the main text. Future loads are faster because the CSS is cached. Same person also claimed that this has been corrected in Gecko 1.9 but I noticed no difference when reading WP with a pre release of Firefox 3.
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On 11/22/07, joshua.zelinsky@yale.edu joshua.zelinsky@yale.edu wrote:
Is there maybe some problem with prefetching? Have you tried turning off prefetching and seeing if that speeds things up?
No I haven't tried that because it's my understanding that prefetching only starts *after* the page is loaded and displayed.
I wonder if if it's possible to write an extension or greasemonkey script that forces the browser to permanently cache the site's CSS for those of us with slow connections. I find it ridiculous that mostly text light graphics pages should take so long to load.
Quoting Ron Ritzman ritzman@gmail.com:
On 11/22/07, joshua.zelinsky@yale.edu joshua.zelinsky@yale.edu wrote:
Is there maybe some problem with prefetching? Have you tried turning off prefetching and seeing if that speeds things up?
No I haven't tried that because it's my understanding that prefetching only starts *after* the page is loaded and displayed.
I'm not sure that's always true. I'm not an expert on this but I seem to recall that there are circumstances where this is false. The only one I remember off the top of my head is I think if one has multiple tabs loading after the first tab finishes Firefox can start prefetching the pages from the finished tab before the next one has loaded all the way. But I'm not completely sure about this. That could be wrong.