On 5 Nov 2007 at 00:32:25 -0700, "Todd Allen" toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows.
Doesn't freedom also give you the right to say that 2+2=5?
on 11/5/07 7:23 AM, Daniel R. Tobias at dan@tobias.name wrote:
On 5 Nov 2007 at 00:32:25 -0700, "Todd Allen" toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows.
Doesn't freedom also give you the right to say that 2+2=5?
Or 6, or 7, or
Marc
On 05/11/2007, Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name wrote:
On 5 Nov 2007 at 00:32:25 -0700, "Todd Allen" toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows.
Doesn't freedom also give you the right to say that 2+2=5?
Sure, provided that the values of 2 are sufficiently large...
Daniel R. Tobias wrote:
On 5 Nov 2007 at 00:32:25 -0700, "Todd Allen" wrote:
Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows.
Doesn't freedom also give you the right to say that 2+2=5?
Not at all! By Todd's definition freedom is the right to say exactly what you're taught to say. It is a very effective doctrine that has certainly been favoured by a majority of governments over the course of history. It would be undemocratic to suggest that such a majority would be wrong. ;-)
Ec
It's actually just a 1984 quote. :P I've always read it as "Freedom is the right to speak the truth", but of course interpretations may vary.
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On 11/5/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Daniel R. Tobias wrote:
On 5 Nov 2007 at 00:32:25 -0700, "Todd Allen" wrote:
Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows.
Doesn't freedom also give you the right to say that 2+2=5?
Not at all! By Todd's definition freedom is the right to say exactly what you're taught to say. It is a very effective doctrine that has certainly been favoured by a majority of governments over the course of history. It would be undemocratic to suggest that such a majority would be wrong. ;-)
Ec
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