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David Gerard

25 Oct 2005 25 Oct '05

8:58 a.m.

Alphax wrote:

RIPE WHOIS reveals that this IP is used by "Ireland On-Line Broadband Customers". Unless Skyring has been travelling I don't see how such a connection was made.

Skyring travels lots and lots and edits from around the world. - d.

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Alphax

25 Oct 25 Oct

9:12 a.m.

New subject: Blocked - In violation of the Wikipedia blocking policy

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 David Gerard wrote:

Alphax wrote:

RIPE WHOIS reveals that this IP is used by "Ireland On-Line Broadband Customers". Unless Skyring has been travelling I don't see how such a connection was made.

Skyring travels lots and lots and edits from around the world.

Good lord, what happened to [[WP:FAITH]]? No messages were left on the IP talk page and the conclusion that "Skyring is using 213.x.x.x" seems to be based purely on style and/or content over the course of 5 edits. Isn't it more likely that a completely different person, in Ireland, possibly Irish, made these edits? I refer you to [[Occam's Razor]]; equally, I refer you to [[Hanlon's Razor]]. - -- Alphax | /"\ Encrypted Email Preferred | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign OpenPGP key ID: 0xF874C613 | X Against HTML email & vCards http://tinyurl.com/cc9up | / \

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geni

4:02 p.m.

New subject: Blocked - In violation of the Wikipedia blocking policy

On 10/25/05, Alphax <alphasigmax(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Good lord, what happened to [[WP:FAITH]]? No messages were left on the IP talk page and the conclusion that "Skyring is using 213.x.x.x" seems to be based purely on style and/or content over the course of 5 edits. Isn't it more likely that a completely different person, in Ireland, possibly Irish, made these edits? I refer you to [[Occam's Razor]]; equally, I refer you to [[Hanlon's Razor]].

However going by the email it is pretty clear that it is skyring so it isn't a problem. -- geni

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Tom Cadden

9:51 p.m.

New subject: Skyring edit history to date - (formerly Blocked - In violation of the Wikipedia blocking policy)

--- geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/25/05, Alphax <alphasigmax(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Good lord, what happened to [[WP:FAITH]]? No

messages were left on the

IP talk page and the conclusion that "Skyring is

using 213.x.x.x" seems

to be based purely on style and/or content over

the course of 5 edits.

Isn't it more likely that a completely different

person, in Ireland,

possibly Irish, made these edits? I refer you to [[Occam's Razor]]; equally, I refer

you to [[Hanlon's

Razor]].

However going by the email it is pretty clear that it is skyring so it isn't a problem. -- geni

To give an idea of Skyring's antics since being banned at the start of September, among the names and IPs proven to be him, or strongly suspected of being him are 1. 144.138.154.241 2. 139.168.158.170 3. 139.168.157.152 4. 139.168.158.161 5. 139.168.159.1 6. 139.168.159.95 7. 143.238.244.146 8. 143.238.244.181 9. 143.238.244.30 10. 143.238.244.52 11. 143.238.244.73 12. 144.131.118.150 13. 144.131.119.225 14. 203.51.24.117 15. 203.51.24.233 16. 203.51.25.203 17. 203.51.25.229 18. 203.51.25.90 19. 203.51.30.105 20. 203.51.31.100 21. 203.51.31.98 22. 203.51.35.13 23. 203.51.35.78 24. 62.24.143.171 25. AULDBITCH LOVES YOU 26. Aroundtheworld 27. Blue Moon Cocktail Bar 28. DataCommander 29. DoctorGrace 30. DungareeDoll 31. IloveParis 32. MagicSpeller 33. Notanerd 34. Onlyapapermoon 35. Rainrainrain 36. Rasptongue 37. Safeground 38. Statue of limitations 39. TheOneGirl 40. Truetoform 41. WaspFactory 42. Called Jim 43. Declared with a grin 44. Except for the tool 45. FamousRay 46. Flatulent 47. For playing the fool 48. GuaranteedTrue 49. Halfinch 50. He's a good bloke and 51. HisHoliness 52. Lackaday-oh 53. Laughter's no sin! 54. Mandriver 55. Mineeyes 56. Not A Joke Joyce 57. NudgeNudge 58. QueenVickie 59. SayNoMore 60. Swinglow 61. TurningHeads 62. Ubuntu 63. UncleJo 64. EZ-SpelChek 65. What a Friend 66. WrongAgain Over 300 edits have been made to well over 100 articles. Only a fraction of the IPs used are listed above. He has now begun setting up new names to go onto pages and pose as neutral observers coming on to defend Skyring. In addition he has blitzed various users with spam. Thom jtdirl ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Ilya N.

9:58 p.m.

New subject: Skyring edit history to date - (formerly Blocked - In violation of the Wikipedia blocking policy)

who owns this IPs? ~Ilya N. (User:Ilyanep) On 10/25/05, Tom Cadden <thomcadden(a)yahoo.ie> wrote:

--- geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/25/05, Alphax <alphasigmax(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Good lord, what happened to [[WP:FAITH]]? No

messages were left on the

IP talk page and the conclusion that "Skyring is

using 213.x.x.x" seems

to be based purely on style and/or content over

the course of 5 edits.

Isn't it more likely that a completely different

person, in Ireland,

possibly Irish, made these edits? I refer you to [[Occam's Razor]]; equally, I refer

you to [[Hanlon's

Razor]].

However going by the email it is pretty clear that it is skyring so it isn't a problem. -- geni

To give an idea of Skyring's antics since being banned at the start of September, among the names and IPs proven to be him, or strongly suspected of being him are 1. 144.138.154.241 <http://144.138.154.241> 2. 139.168.158.170 <http://139.168.158.170> 3. 139.168.157.152 <http://139.168.157.152> 4. 139.168.158.161 <http://139.168.158.161> 5. 139.168.159.1 <http://139.168.159.1> 6. 139.168.159.95 <http://139.168.159.95> 7. 143.238.244.146 <http://143.238.244.146> 8. 143.238.244.181 <http://143.238.244.181> 9. 143.238.244.30 <http://143.238.244.30> 10. 143.238.244.52 <http://143.238.244.52> 11. 143.238.244.73 <http://143.238.244.73> 12. 144.131.118.150 <http://144.131.118.150> 13. 144.131.119.225 <http://144.131.119.225> 14. 203.51.24.117 <http://203.51.24.117> 15. 203.51.24.233 <http://203.51.24.233> 16. 203.51.25.203 <http://203.51.25.203> 17. 203.51.25.229 <http://203.51.25.229> 18. 203.51.25.90 <http://203.51.25.90> 19. 203.51.30.105 <http://203.51.30.105> 20. 203.51.31.100 <http://203.51.31.100> 21. 203.51.31.98 <http://203.51.31.98> 22. 203.51.35.13 <http://203.51.35.13> 23. 203.51.35.78 <http://203.51.35.78> 24. 62.24.143.171 <http://62.24.143.171> 25. AULDBITCH LOVES YOU 26. Aroundtheworld 27. Blue Moon Cocktail Bar 28. DataCommander 29. DoctorGrace 30. DungareeDoll 31. IloveParis 32. MagicSpeller 33. Notanerd 34. Onlyapapermoon 35. Rainrainrain 36. Rasptongue 37. Safeground 38. Statue of limitations 39. TheOneGirl 40. Truetoform 41. WaspFactory 42. Called Jim 43. Declared with a grin 44. Except for the tool 45. FamousRay 46. Flatulent 47. For playing the fool 48. GuaranteedTrue 49. Halfinch 50. He's a good bloke and 51. HisHoliness 52. Lackaday-oh 53. Laughter's no sin! 54. Mandriver 55. Mineeyes 56. Not A Joke Joyce 57. NudgeNudge 58. QueenVickie 59. SayNoMore 60. Swinglow 61. TurningHeads 62. Ubuntu 63. UncleJo 64. EZ-SpelChek 65. What a Friend 66. WrongAgain Over 300 edits have been made to well over 100 articles. Only a fraction of the IPs used are listed above. He has now begun setting up new names to go onto pages and pose as neutral observers coming on to defend Skyring. In addition he has blitzed various users with spam. Thom jtdirl ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Alphax

26 Oct 26 Oct

8:52 a.m.

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Ilya N. wrote:

who owns this IPs?

I can't look them up to confirm this, but I suspect Telstra and Optus. - -- Alphax | /"\ Encrypted Email Preferred | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign OpenPGP key ID: 0xF874C613 | X Against HTML email & vCards http://tinyurl.com/cc9up | / \

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Geoff Burling

6:58 p.m.

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From everything that I've seen written here about Skyring,

if it is correct then we returned to the point we were at a few months ago when it appeared that a group of neo-Nazis might take over Wikipedia, & Jimbo announced that he would take any measure to prevent them. In other words, extreme remasures are now needed -- for example, either a DMCA lawsuit or finding some muscular hard cases who will "discourage" him from making further posts to Wikipedia. (Yes, I'm joking about the last option. Mostly.) If that is the case, I hope a first step before this would be to talk to the ISPs involved first -- even if they blow us off, then seek the help of any Internet activists in Australia. That way, when we do something extreme like block all anons & new accounts from Australia, it will help minimize the ill will that ensues. Not sure what else I could contribute to this discussion. He's become a difficult problem, & all of the easy solutions have been tried & shown not to work. And he's gotten to the point where attacking Wikipedia has become his life: calling that "pathetic" doesn't properly do it justice. Geoff

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