Elonka wrote:
I am a public figure who has contributed over a thousand edits to Wikipedia, and created dozens of articles. I was attempting to go through the dispute resolution process to build an RfC to address a series of personal attacks that were generated towards me by user DreamGuy, but earlier today I was accused by Admin Bishonen of harassment, and then blocked
"indefinitely", without
warning, by Admin David Gerard, with the comment, "clearly not here to write an encyclopedia in any way." More information is available here, including a link to the related discussion on the Admin noticeboard: _http://www.elonka.com/wikipedia/_ (http://www.elonka.com/wikipedia/)
There's a pile of discussion on WP:ANI on this case. There's been a pile of socks after DreamGuy for a while, and when Elonka started as well, several admins (me included) presumed this was another one. This probably isn't the case. Someone else has dropped the block to a week. I've exchanged email with Elonka on the matter, and strongly suggested that the abovelinked page be removed or severely toned down if she wants a happier involvement in general with Wikipedia.
ps: I'm probably about that famous, but I don't state a claim of such every breath I take. I'm just picturing WMC or someone doing that sort of thing ... nah.
- d.
There's a pile of discussion on WP:ANI on this case. There's been a pile of socks after DreamGuy for a while, and when Elonka started as well, several admins (me included) presumed this was another one. This probably isn't the case. Someone else has dropped the block to a week. I've exchanged email with Elonka on the matter, and strongly suggested that the abovelinked page be removed or severely toned down if she wants a happier involvement in general with Wikipedia.
ps: I'm probably about that famous, but I don't state a claim of such every breath I take. I'm just picturing WMC or someone doing that sort of thing ... nah.
How come we're blaming her all of a sudden? We're the ones who screwed up. The predominant culture on Wikipedia is really good at pissing off good-faith contributors sometimes--I'm often loath to ask others to contribute because I know how they'll ultimately be treated.
Here's someone who openly states on her page that she wants to help Wikipedia, but she wants the personal attacks against her removed before that happens. If you step back and look at it from her point of view, and not through the lens of the Wikipedia culture, is that really so unreasonable?
From: wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of Philip Welch
How come we're blaming her all of a sudden? We're the ones who screwed up. The predominant culture on Wikipedia is really good at pissing off good-faith contributors sometimes--I'm often loath to ask others to contribute because I know how they'll ultimately be treated.
Here's someone who openly states on her page that she wants to help Wikipedia, but she wants the personal attacks against her removed before that happens. If you step back and look at it from her point of view, and not through the lens of the Wikipedia culture, is that really so unreasonable?
I know that we can't make people be nice, but I can't help feeling that if the culture changed a bit there would be positive feedback all along the line. Not a vicious circle, but I dunno, some happier name.
New editors arrive and find long-established members behaving in a less than polite manner. And getting away with it. Naturally they take this as par for the course and retaliate in kind. Or less than kind, if you smoke my drift.
Now, my feeling is that the overwhelming majority of Wikipedians are polite, friendly, hard-working people, and there are many here I enjoy working with. But there's a few...
And yes, you can probably include me amongst that few. When I find someone sinking the boot into me, I tend to apply a bit of needling in return.
Peter (Skyring)
"Peter Mackay" peter.mackay@bigpond.com wrote in message news:20060130194249.DRNN10380.omta04sl.mx.bigpond.com@skyringstudy... [snip]
I know that we can't make people be nice, but I can't help feeling that if the culture changed a bit there would be positive feedback all along the line. Not a vicious circle, but I dunno, some happier name.
Opposite of "vicious circle" == "virtuous circle" IIRC
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