You do not need to mention "all" contributors. A satisfactory attribution is merely a URL pointing to the Wikipedia article and possibly one pointing at the history page. By our inaction we've made it clear you do not need to directly mention any contributors.
Will Johnson
In a message dated 8/18/2009 9:29:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, brewhaha@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes:
To my knowledge, all that is required to meet a -BY- requirement is one mention of all contributors.
Although correct me if I'm wrong, but part of GFDL is a kind of inheritability. In other words if an editor (copyright holder) finds their text being used in these books, they can require the publisher comply with all the attribution requirements within GFDL, even if Wikimedia's communities do not insist on it all.
FT2
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
You do not need to mention "all" contributors. A satisfactory attribution is merely a URL pointing to the Wikipedia article and possibly one pointing at the history page. By our inaction we've made it clear you do not need to directly mention any contributors.
Will Johnson
In a message dated 8/18/2009 9:29:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, brewhaha@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes:
To my knowledge, all that is required to meet a -BY- requirement is one mention of all contributors.
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Of course anyone is free to raise this legal theory in a suit. However exactly what requirements the license has and exactly how you have to comply with them, is a source of contentious debate even among those who believe it's enforceable at all.
Personally what I would like to see is something like "this article copied from the version at Wikipedia URL blah blah blah/versionstamp" and that's it. If a person can even navigate that far, or cares, it's completely trivial to look at the version history to see "who" wrote it. And I enquote who, because this is the most silly argument I've yet seen at blocking mirrors. Some of our articles have dozens if not hundreds of writers and it's near impossible for any non-geek to determine who are the top five or whatever. The license doesn't mean "five" or any number.
So the URL is sufficient in my mind. And I really expect that in citation practice in print material we're much more likely to see something like that trite "Cleopatra, WP".
When the entire license was created without giving clear and specific and exact examples, the writers should have been taken out and shot :) That's not a call to action, just my opinion. The way it stands it's a lawyer's feast or a dog's breakfast, or both.
So in conclusion, any editor who wants to sue that publication, should probably do so, within the next seven years, or lose all chance at making a later claim ;)
Will Johnson
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Although correct me if I'm wrong, but part of GFDL is a kind of inheritability. In other words if an editor (copyright holder) finds their text being used in these books, they can require the publisher comply with all the attribution requirements within GFDL, even if Wikimedia's communities do not insist on it all.
FT2
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
You do not need to mention "all" contributors. A satisfactory attribution is merely a URL pointing to the Wikipedia article and possibly one pointing at the history page. By our inaction we've made it clear you do not need to directly
mention any
contributors.
Will Johnson
In a message dated 8/18/2009 9:29:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, brewhaha@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca writes:
To my knowledge, all that is required to meet a -BY- requirement is one mention of all
contributors.
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