At 09:09 AM 2/12/03 -0500, Ed Poor wrote:
My friends, after talking privately with Lir I feel it is only fair for us to withdraw our objections to his participation on Wikipedia. He has agreed to be good, and that is good for all of us.
I suppose some of us may want a sort of statement from him, or may still want to express concerns. I ask only that you be gentle and considerate, bearing in mind as always that "example is the best teacher".
The problem here is twofold. First, Lir agreed to be good once before, and then didn't. (That's beyond the implicit agreement to be good that everyone who works on a project like this, with defined goals, is making.)
Second, since this was a private discussion between Ed and Lir, I don't know what "be good" means in this case. Ed, can you elaborate?
|X-Sender: vr@smtp.panix.com |From: Vicki Rosenzweig vr@redbird.org |Sender: wikien-l-admin@wikipedia.org |Reply-To: wikien-l@wikipedia.org |Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:04:20 -0500 | |At 09:09 AM 2/12/03 -0500, Ed Poor wrote: | |>My friends, after talking privately with Lir I feel it is only fair for us |>to withdraw our objections to his participation on Wikipedia. He has |>agreed to be good, and that is good for all of us. |> |>I suppose some of us may want a sort of statement from him, or may still |>want to express concerns. I ask only that you be gentle and considerate, |>bearing in mind as always that "example is the best teacher". | |The problem here is twofold. First, Lir agreed to be good once before, and then |didn't. (That's beyond the implicit agreement to be good that everyone who |works |on a project like this, with defined goals, is making.) | |Second, since this was a private discussion between Ed and Lir, I don't |know what |"be good" means in this case. Ed, can you elaborate? | | |-- |Vicki Rosenzweig |vr@redbird.org |http://www.redbird.org | |_______________________________________________ |WikiEN-l mailing list |WikiEN-l@wikipedia.org |http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
My vow of no conflict is still in place. I've got a short list of people whose presence in an article means my absence from it. Vera Cruz and Lir are both on it. It will be watchful waiting for me, but at the moment I am still cringing from this person's previous incarnations. What has this person acknowledged about past behavior, after apparently weeks of private discussion with Jimbo and now Ed Poor, that would make anyone want to see this person back?
Tom Parmenter Ortolan88