Is there a given anon IP address be blocked from editing unless it signs up with an account? I think this would be quite useful in situations of persistent vandalism from high schools or libraries, etc.
It would just say something like, "This IP is blocked from editing anonymously because of past problems with vandalism, but you are free to start an account and then you can edit all you want" or something like that. Is this possible?
FF
It's something to think about to implement, but its not possible at the moment. It would be good for the extreme cases of mass-vandalism (Cambridge University has IPs getting blocked/unblocked/warned almost constantly, for example). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fastfission" fastfission@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [WikiEN-l] Anon IP blocking without account
Is there a given anon IP address be blocked from editing unless it signs up with an account? I think this would be quite useful in situations of persistent vandalism from high schools or libraries, etc.
It would just say something like, "This IP is blocked from editing anonymously because of past problems with vandalism, but you are free to start an account and then you can edit all you want" or something like that. Is this possible?
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I suppose what it would be, at a technical level, would be "account only, not IP" blocking, and you'd block edits from [[User:0.0.0.0]], etc.
(At least, that's how I -- someone who has no idea how anon account editing works -- would imagine it to work).
FF
On 6/22/05, David 'DJ' Hedley spyders@btinternet.com wrote:
It's something to think about to implement, but its not possible at the moment. It would be good for the extreme cases of mass-vandalism (Cambridge University has IPs getting blocked/unblocked/warned almost constantly, for example). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fastfission" fastfission@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [WikiEN-l] Anon IP blocking without account
Is there a given anon IP address be blocked from editing unless it signs up with an account? I think this would be quite useful in situations of persistent vandalism from high schools or libraries, etc.
It would just say something like, "This IP is blocked from editing anonymously because of past problems with vandalism, but you are free to start an account and then you can edit all you want" or something like that. Is this possible?
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Just FYI, this request is in bugzilla as item #550; there is some discussion of it there:
From: "Fastfission" fastfission@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [WikiEN-l] Anon IP blocking without account
Is there a given anon IP address be blocked from editing unless it signs up with an account? I think this would be quite useful in situations of persistent vandalism from high schools or libraries, etc.
It would just say something like, "This IP is blocked from editing anonymously because of past problems with vandalism, but you are free to start an account and then you can edit all you want" or something like that. Is this possible?
Would that make it harder to stop sockpuppets?
Jay.
On 6/22/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
It would just say something like, "This IP is blocked from editing anonymously because of past problems with vandalism, but you are free to start an account and then you can edit all you want" or something like that. Is this possible?
Would that make it harder to stop sockpuppets?
Only if we replaced the current functionality with this.. Better to make them both available and use the new one only for shared IPs.
That's exactly right. This wouldn't replace anything as is, it would just augment. I'm getting real sick of high school IP addresses that vandalize and then say, "Oh, must have been someone else." Better to just lock that down at a level where you can leave a message and be sure it is getting to the right person. But only in situations where it has been shown to be a recurrent problem, of course.
FF
On 6/22/05, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/22/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
It would just say something like, "This IP is blocked from editing anonymously because of past problems with vandalism, but you are free to start an account and then you can edit all you want" or something like that. Is this possible?
Would that make it harder to stop sockpuppets?
Only if we replaced the current functionality with this.. Better to make them both available and use the new one only for shared IPs. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
On 6/23/05, Fastfission fastfission@gmail.com wrote:
That's exactly right. This wouldn't replace anything as is, it would just augment. I'm getting real sick of high school IP addresses that vandalize and then say, "Oh, must have been someone else." Better to just lock that down at a level where you can leave a message and be sure it is getting to the right person. But only in situations where it has been shown to be a recurrent problem, of course.
FF
They're not always lying, though. I have my own IP when I edit from my room, but if I use the shared labs downstairs, I have to use one which could be any one of about four thousand students. I've had to unblock it a few times before - in cases like this, such a block would be really useful, though.
-- ambi