Wik keeps removing "Halloween" from [[October 2003]]; in my part of the world, Halloween was front page news for a week -- there was a great deal of discussion about the decline of Halloween in Europe. Please arbitrate this issue.
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A [name omitted for privacy reasons] wrote:
Wik keeps removing "Halloween" from [[October 2003]]; in my part of the world, Halloween was front page news for a week -- there was a great deal of discussion about the decline of Halloween in Europe. Please arbitrate this issue.
Isn't this just a little too trivial to call for arbitration?
Ec
From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 23:59:31 -0800 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for Arbitration
A [name omitted for privacy reasons] wrote:
Wik keeps removing "Halloween" from [[October 2003]]; in my part of the world, Halloween was front page news for a week -- there was a great deal of discussion about the decline of Halloween in Europe. Please arbitrate this issue.
Isn't this just a little too trivial to call for arbitration?
Ec
Halloween is a major holiday, celebration, or whatever in the US, not quite as big as Christmas. It is an established fact, not subject to serious dispute. Removal of any known, well-established fact from an article where it clearly belongs is a serious matter. Hiding behind a claim of triviality is not a defense. It is like someone who shortchanges you a nickel every time you deal with them.
Fred
At 04:05 AM 12/8/03 -0700, Fred wrote:
From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 23:59:31 -0800 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for Arbitration
A [name omitted for privacy reasons] wrote:
Wik keeps removing "Halloween" from [[October 2003]]; in my part of the world, Halloween was front page news for a week -- there was a great deal of discussion about the decline of Halloween in Europe. Please arbitrate this issue.
Isn't this just a little too trivial to call for arbitration?
Ec
Halloween is a major holiday, celebration, or whatever in the US, not quite as big as Christmas. It is an established fact, not subject to serious dispute. Removal of any known, well-established fact from an article where it clearly belongs is a serious matter. Hiding behind a claim of triviality is not a defense. It is like someone who shortchanges you a nickel every time you deal with them.
"Halloween" belongs on the list of holidays on the [[October 31]] page, as Christmas does on [[December 25]] and Bastille Day on [[July 14]]. That doesn't make it a specific [[October 2003]] event; certainly newspaper articles on the lack of interest in it this year don't strike me as making it an October 2003 event.
A [name omitted for privacy reasons] wrote:
Wik keeps removing "Halloween" from [[October 2003]]; in my part of the world, Halloween was front page news for a week -- there was a great deal of discussion about the decline of Halloween in Europe. Please arbitrate this issue.
Technically, this should say "request for mediation", as opposed to arbitration. The mediators are going to try to resolve the conflict to your mutual satisfcation. I would imagine that the the efforts to resolve the conflict may go beyond just this particular issue and into the broader ongoing low-level conflict between Wik and Lir.
--Jimbo
Lir (A [name omitted for privacy reasons]) wrote:
Wik keeps removing "Halloween" from [[October 2003]]; in my part of the world, Halloween was front page news for a week -- there was a great deal of discussion about the decline of Halloween in Europe. Please arbitrate this issue.
Mediate, not arbitrate.
But in this case, it might help to start at [[Talk:October 2003]] -- currently empty of any discussion of this point by either you or Wik.
We shouldn't burden the Mediation Committee with disputes that people haven't tried to resolve on their own.
(Although in this case, I recognise that there is more to mediate between Lir and Wik than just this one article.)
-- Toby