Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:45:12 +0100 From: "David Gerard" dgerard@gmail.com Subject: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] TorBlock extension enabled To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andrew Garrett andrew@epstone.net Date: 2008/6/4 Subject: [Wikitech-l] TorBlock extension enabled To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi all,
After working through the code with Tim for a few hours this afternoon, the TorBlock extension has been enabled on Wikimedia.
The TorBlock extension will override local IP blocks to provide a consistent treatment of tor. Currently, this involves allowing only logged-in users to edit, and requiring tor users to have 100 edits, and a 90-day-old account, prior to being autoconfirmed.
Hopefully, this will provide a balance between allowing users to edit through tor without the difficult process of granting per-wiki IP block exemptions, and preventing pagemove vandals (such as the user known as 'Grawp' on English) from using Tor for vandalism and so on.
I haven't yet implemented this, but I am interested in the prospect of marking Tor users as such on either CheckUser, or (privacy policy depending) on Recent Changes.
-- Andrew Garrett
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I think this is a good idea, as far as soft-blocking or. However, the "autoconfirmed, 100 edits, 90 days" is not, because the users with Tor should be allowed to use it, if it protects them from privacy. It should not be softblocked until an editor is an "experienced editor", because it is an assumption of bad faith for Wikipedia to assume that an editor does not have good intentions because they aren't "prolific".
I can understand if this is a cautionary measure, however just because an editor hasn't made 100 edits and stayed there for 90 days, does not mean they are vandals or sleeper accounts. This is a flaw in the proposal, and should be fixed.
Jonas
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Jonas Rand joeyyuan@cox.net wrote:
I think this is a good idea, as far as soft-blocking or. However, the "autoconfirmed, 100 edits, 90 days" is not, because the users with Tor should be allowed to use it, if it protects them from privacy. It should not be softblocked until an editor is an "experienced editor", because it is an assumption of bad faith for Wikipedia to assume that an editor does not have good intentions because they aren't "prolific".
I can understand if this is a cautionary measure, however just because an editor hasn't made 100 edits and stayed there for 90 days, does not mean they are vandals or sleeper accounts. This is a flaw in the proposal, and should be fixed.
Of course, but this does not stop them from editing -- only from editing semi-protected pages or other things that require an autoconfirmed account[1]. Tor is too often abused (globally, on all Wikimedia sites), so I assume the longer autoconfirmed information is the price of having that level of privacy.
Just a note, this isn't a proposal. It is a notification or "heads-up" about an already installed[2], global (all of Wikimedia) extension.[3]
[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version [3]http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TorBlock