The only reason my email name says Adam, is because one of the reasons I was banned, was that a few of you didn't like the fact that my email name didnt say Adam. I dunno why, but Im sure you have some very "good" reasons.
I have already apoligized for numerous actions, it is a lie to say I have not. I am sure that you will be disagreeable at my insinuation that you are not being honest; but I have apoligized and if you don't know that - its because you have chosen not to know. I have apoligized, and you have decided not to accept my apology. This has occurred on numerous occasions, spanning the past 8 months. I have apoligized, you have not accepted the apology. Please stop acting as if I have failed to apoligize.
I am sorry that you feel I have "publically lied" about why I was banned, there is little I can do to refute your allegations that I have some evil agenda. I have a right to try and understand I was banned, and part of that right involves my attempting to explain, in my own words, why I was banned:
As I understand it, I was banned for:
* suggesting that there might be latent racism behind certain naming conventions * calling mav a fuckhead for not acting in what I felt was a reasonable manner * making Zoe upset * stepping on Larry Sanger's toes * attacking RK for being a Jew * attacking Clutch for telling the truth * not making enough friends, leaving me without a substantial defense * alleging that there might be a cabal arrayed against me * suggesting that the position of a "benevolent monarch" was totalitarian * engaging in an edit war over the name of an Italian and a spot in Vietnam * making too many suggestions for changes, thus "stirring up trouble" * not using the minor edits flag enough * not using the major edits flag enough * making too many edits, on the same article, in too short of a time period * and not taking the time to go back over my edits and fix errors, instead leaving them for other editors to fix * too frequently using POV in articles * too frequently using NPOV in articles * not using the name which certain users felt I should use * creating a user page which was not considered "tasteful" or "well formatted" * causing an amount of vandalism such that the wiki will not recover during this decade * lying and twisting words and the truth to fit my own needs * trolling constantly * etc
Im sure there are many more reasons.
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At 06:59 PM 7/3/03 -0700, Adam von [name omitted for privacy reasons] wrote:
The only reason my email name says Adam, is because one of the reasons I was banned, was that a few of you didn't like the fact that my email name didnt say Adam. I dunno why, but Im sure you have some very "good" reasons.
Are you still denying that your name is Adam? If you aren't Adam [name omitted for privacy reasons], why are you using his name? If you are, why do you deny being named Adam?
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As I understand it, I was banned for:
....
- attacking RK for being a Jew
This in itself is reason enough that I think you don't belong on the Wikipedia, and that I have no reason to believe your apologies.
Vicki Rosenzweig wrote:
Adam von [name omitted for privacy reasons] (Lir) wrote:
As I understand it, I was banned for: ....
- attacking RK for being a Jew
This in itself is reason enough that I think you don't belong on the Wikipedia, and that I have no reason to believe your apologies.
If you remember what this was about and are responding to that, fine; but if you're responding to what Lir wrote in that list, keep in mind that it's a list of things that people have said (presumbably in talk pages and mailing lists) to her, not things that she admits to having done. (The later entries should make that clear.)
-- Toby
Adam von [name omitted for privacy reasons] wrote:
The only reason my email name says Adam, is because one of the reasons I was banned, was that a few of you didn't like the fact that my email name didnt say Adam. I dunno why, but Im sure you have some very "good" reasons.
One of the things that you do that contributes to your ongoing problems is simply _lying_ about why you were banned. We've been over this many times before, publicly and privately. The name given by your email software never had anything to do with it at all, and furthermore, you know this.
I am sorry that you feel I have "publically lied" about why I was banned,
And I'm sorry that you've done it again, in this very email!
- lying and twisting words and the truth to fit my own needs
- trolling constantly
Those are the most important, yes.
--Jimbo