At 09:11 AM 3/25/03 -0500, Ed Poor wrote:

This has been discussed before, at length, and the most passionate and devoted contributor on the topic has been maveric. I will go along with any naming convention he devises (i.e., he has my "proxy vote").

The point of the naming convention has always been to make the article title:

• unambiguous, and
• as short as possible

These two values compete somewhat, and there are always thorny special cases. Is [[Paris]] enough to indicate that big city in France? Does [[New York]] mean New York State or New York City? -- not to mention (although I just did; hi, cunctator!) that WITHIN New York City "New York" generally means Manhattan!

No. Within New York City "New York" means either the city or the state, depending on context--but "the city" means the part of Manhattan where most of the businesses and tourist stuff are. Someone taking the bus down from the Bronx to visit me, or the nearby hospital, or the Cloisters, wouldn't say they were going into "the city".

We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion of Wikipedia conventions.