Did you just say you hate all jews?!
As for my anti-Semitism... Im guess I'm in a good company with Chomsky, Avnery, and countless other paragons of intellect and truthspeak.. not to mention Jesus... all Jews, by the way.. Read attachment: As for not reading my mind... We would have to be on the same *page for that to be true... -SV
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No, Daniel. Thats not what it says. Ask someone to interpret it for you before you make insinuations that you should regret..-SV
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Did you just say you hate all jews?!
As for my anti-Semitism... Im guess I'm in a good company with Chomsky, Avnery, and countless other paragons of intellect and truthspeak.. not
to
mention Jesus... all Jews, by the way.. Read attachment: As for not reading my mind... We would have to be on the same *page for that to be true... -SV
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At 02:17 PM 3/19/03 -0800, Stevertigo wrote:
No, Daniel. Thats not what it says. Ask someone to interpret it for you before you make insinuations that you should regret..-SV
He asked you a *question*, in the name of all that's holy. Have you considered the merits of restating what you meant, when it's unclear, instead of being condescending to everyone else?
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Did you just say you hate all jews?!
As for my anti-Semitism... Im guess I'm in a good company with Chomsky, Avnery, and countless other paragons of intellect and truthspeak.. not
to
mention Jesus... all Jews, by the way.. Read attachment: As for not reading my mind... We would have to be on the same *page for that to be true... -SV
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He asked you a *question*, in the name of all that's holy. Have you considered the merits of restating what you meant, when it's unclear,
instead
of being condescending to everyone else?
Well, I just did. And now maybe you can answer mine, Vicki:
From: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030317/168/3jger.html
...Settlers in Kiryat Arba also marked Monday the 9th anniversary of an attack by Baruch Goldstein, a Jewish doctor and a Kiryat Arba settler who killed 29 Palestinian worshippers in a 1994 shooting attack. (AP Photo/ Ariel Schalit)
In a Mosque, I might add. Is this anti-Arabist? -SV
At 02:55 PM 3/19/03 -0800, you wrote:
He asked you a *question*, in the name of all that's holy. Have you considered the merits of restating what you meant, when it's unclear,
instead
of being condescending to everyone else?
Well, I just did. And now maybe you can answer mine, Vicki:
From: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030317/168/3jger.html
...Settlers in Kiryat Arba also marked Monday the 9th anniversary of an attack by Baruch Goldstein, a Jewish doctor and a Kiryat Arba settler who killed 29 Palestinian worshippers in a 1994 shooting attack. (AP Photo/ Ariel Schalit)
In a Mosque, I might add. Is this anti-Arabist? -SV
I'd say it was anti-Moslem, primarily.
"He did it too" is no defense. I have never defended, and will never defend, Baruch Goldstein.
I will ask you this: are you an anti-Jewish racist? Yes or no? You've pointed out that the false accusation of racism is a serious matter. You've also carefully avoided denying that you are a racist of this particular type.
That the accusation of racism can be made falsely does not excuse racism or mean that there is no such thing. A malicious person could falsely accuse me of murder. That doesn't mean that murder has never happened.
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Vicki exasperated: I will ask you this: are you an anti-Jewish racist? Yes
or no?
You've pointed out that the false accusation of racism is a serious matter. You've also carefully avoided denying that you are a racist of this particular type.
That the accusation of racism can be made falsely does not excuse racism or mean that there is no such thing. A malicious person could falsely
accuse
me of murder. That doesn't mean that murder has never happened.
Ah you *ask* finally. Allow me instead of simply giving you a fish, teach you *how to fish, and ask you to figure it out: 1. Stevertigo incessantly quotes Chomsky, Einstein, Robert Zimmerman,.. thinks Rachmaninoff surpassed all composers, loved Shindler's List, and am waiting eagerly for Occupation 101... Can you fish? -SV
At 03:48 PM 3/19/03 -0800, Stevertigo wrote:
Vicki exasperated: I will ask you this: are you an anti-Jewish racist? Yes
or no?
You've pointed out that the false accusation of racism is a serious matter. You've also carefully avoided denying that you are a racist of this particular type.
That the accusation of racism can be made falsely does not excuse racism or mean that there is no such thing. A malicious person could falsely
accuse
me of murder. That doesn't mean that murder has never happened.
Ah you *ask* finally.
Yes, I ask in words of one syllable, having given you previous chances to tell the list that you aren't a racist. You continue not to answer.
Allow me instead of simply giving you a fish, teach you *how to fish, and ask you to figure it out: 1. Stevertigo incessantly quotes Chomsky, Einstein, Robert Zimmerman,.. thinks Rachmaninoff surpassed all composers, loved Shindler's List, and am waiting eagerly for Occupation 101... Can you fish? -SV
No, you sanctimonious idiot, I cannot fish: I am sitting in front of a computer, after dark, and it's close to freezing out there next to the river. Nor do I have rod and reel.
I can ask a simple question. You appear unable or unwilling to answer it. Your position on the US invasion of Iraq--if that's what you mean by "Occupation 101"--has nothing to do with the matter.
Don't be surprised if your repeated refusal to say that you aren't a Jew-hater makes people suspect that you are.
(Sorry, Ed, I can't always be the least offensive person on the list.)
Allow me instead of simply giving you a fish, teach you *how to fish, and ask you to figure it out: 1. Stevertigo incessantly quotes Chomsky, Einstein, Robert Zimmerman,.. thinks Rachmaninoff
surpassed
all composers, loved Shindler's List, and am waiting eagerly for
Occupation
101... Can you fish? -SV
No, you sanctimonious idiot, I cannot fish: I am sitting in front of a computer, after dark, and it's close to freezing out there next to the river. Nor do I
have
rod and reel. I can ask a simple question. You appear unable or unwilling to answer it.
Your
position on the US invasion of Iraq--if that's what you mean by
"Occupation
101"--has nothing to do with the matter.
No, Occupation 101 is about Israels occupation of Palestine: "Kosovo without TV cameras" as a good Ha'aretz reporter put it.
Don't be surprised if your repeated refusal to say that you aren't a
Jew-hater
makes people suspect that you are. (Sorry, Ed, I can't always be the least offensive person on the list.)
I havent "answered" your question mostly because the question is *insincere, *disingenous, *pointless, *ill-founded, and *slanderous in its own right, and deserves no justice by being responded to... Although.... I actually think that your directness makes you *less than offensive; because being direct is a good step toward sincere, and sincerity breeds truth. Since you *refuse to put 2 and 2 together, or simply cant bring yourself to believe that the answer is 4... I'll spell it out for you Vicki... I am not a racist.
I am not against Judaism, nor do I harbor generalized derogative opinions of Jews or any other ethnic group. I don't believe that anti-Jewish hatespeech has any basis other than xenophobic and economic anger. By my regular and cordial discourse and association with people who are no less Jewish than yourself, you should understand this, and you should know how offensive it is that you should say that I am a racist.
I am happy and glad that you are a direct and sincere person, Vicki, and clearly curious as to my humble views. You are a generally sweet person. Thank you for not here trying to make the stupid claim that anti-Semitism is a *special kind of discrimination, (distinct from racism; and deserving *special treatment). And thank you for not saying that anyone who disagrees with US-sponsored racist-Israeli apartheid is an anti-Semite. I hope this answers all your questions. -Sanctimonious, yet Uber-understanding, Steven
Daniel Ehrenberg wrote:
Stevertigo wrote:
As for my anti-Semitism... Im guess I'm in a good company with Chomsky, Avnery, and countless other paragons of intellect and truthspeak.. not to mention Jesus... all Jews, by the way.. Read attachment: As for not reading my mind... We would have to be on the same *page for that to be true...
Did you just say you hate all jews?!
No, he said that Chomsky, Avnery, and Jesus are all Jews. They've also all been accused of anti-Semitism, and I guess that he has a high opinion of them all, so he considers himself in good company.
Hth
-- Toby