It seems that [[Blocking of Wikipedia in mainland China]] was just moved to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_of_Wikipedia_in_mainland_Chi...
The reason given was the [[Wikipedia:Avoid self-references]] rule.
The article is still linked by six mainspace articles. Should we merge the information and remove the links or just move it back?
On 7/15/06, Bogdan Giusca liste@dapyx.com wrote:
It seems that [[Blocking of Wikipedia in mainland China]] was just moved to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_of_Wikipedia_in_mainland_Chi...
The reason given was the [[Wikipedia:Avoid self-references]] rule.
The article is still linked by six mainspace articles. Should we merge the information and remove the links or just move it back?
Wikipedia should avoid gratuitous self-reference, but the blocking of Wikipedia by China is itself newsworthy/articleworthy, IMO. We have a [[Wikipedia]] article, after all - not all self-reference is forbidden.
-Matt
On 7/15/06, Matt Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
Wikipedia should avoid gratuitous self-reference, but the blocking of Wikipedia by China is itself newsworthy/articleworthy, IMO. We have a [[Wikipedia]] article, after all - not all self-reference is forbidden.
I think that's a good assessment, and good criteria to use. The blocks have been covered in the major media, and the articles ties in with other articles about PRC internet censorship, particularly [[Baidu Baike]].
On 7/15/06, Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/15/06, Matt Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
Wikipedia should avoid gratuitous self-reference, but the blocking of Wikipedia by China is itself newsworthy/articleworthy, IMO. We have a [[Wikipedia]] article, after all - not all self-reference is forbidden.
I think that's a good assessment, and good criteria to use. The blocks have been covered in the major media, and the articles ties in with other articles about PRC internet censorship, particularly [[Baidu Baike]].
Well as someone living on the front lines of Wikipedia access in China, I do think moving the article to Wikipedia: namespace is the correct thing to do. It's not really appropriate for the main namespace. It wouldn't be appropriate for any of these either:
[[Blocking_of_BBC_in_mainland_China]] [[Blocking_of_Blogger_in_mainland_China]] [[Blocking_of_HRIC_in_mainland_China]]
-Andrew (User:Fuzheado)
Andrew Lih wrote:
On 7/15/06, Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/15/06, Matt Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
Wikipedia should avoid gratuitous self-reference, but the blocking of Wikipedia by China is itself newsworthy/articleworthy, IMO. We have a [[Wikipedia]] article, after all - not all self-reference is forbidden.
I think that's a good assessment, and good criteria to use. The blocks have been covered in the major media, and the articles ties in with other articles about PRC internet censorship, particularly [[Baidu Baike]].
Well as someone living on the front lines of Wikipedia access in China, I do think moving the article to Wikipedia: namespace is the correct thing to do. It's not really appropriate for the main namespace. It wouldn't be appropriate for any of these either:
[[Blocking_of_BBC_in_mainland_China]] [[Blocking_of_Blogger_in_mainland_China]] [[Blocking_of_HRIC_in_mainland_China]]
Is there anything like a [[Blocking of external media in mainland China]] article? I think that would be quite reasonable to have an article about. And when that article grows to an unwieldy size it would also be justified to split it up into subtopics much like the ones you list. So no, I think it's quite appropriate to have those articles, we may just need a more obvious "parent" article about the subject in general.
On 7/16/06, Andrew Lih andrew.lih@gmail.com wrote:
Well as someone living on the front lines of Wikipedia access in China, I do think moving the article to Wikipedia: namespace is the correct thing to do. It's not really appropriate for the main namespace. It wouldn't be appropriate for any of these either:
[[Blocking_of_BBC_in_mainland_China]] [[Blocking_of_Blogger_in_mainland_China]] [[Blocking_of_HRIC_in_mainland_China]]
You do raise a good argument. I was approaching the move mainly from the perspective of whether or not it is ok as a self-reference. Perhaps a merge is in order then - to [[internet censorship in mainland China]], [[Wikipedia]], or a combination of targets.