The most interesting thing about his program is that he knows little about Wikipedia, thus interviews the usual people, exhibiting a sense of wonder all the way. In other words, he has no shame attempting to grapple as an amateur with a topic he is not expert in, in much the same manner as a typical Wikipedia editor.
This does not stop him from soliciting the usual criticism that Wikipedia is not edited by experts. Apparently he takes for granted that as a journalist, he need not be an expert himself, at least not in the subject matter he addresses.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Steven Walling [mailto:steven.walling@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 08:54 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC
quite. sorry. here it is.http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/progs/radioplayer_holding.shtml
On 7/24/07, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
A url would help
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Steven Walling [mailto:steven.walling@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 08:11 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: [WikiEN-l] BBC
Has anyone listened to the BBC's recent Wikipedia coverage? I'm on an
iBook
and it's only available in RealPlayer format.
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Journals are professionals, with specialized training and supervised experience. They are taught how to work with things they do not necessarily understand--in a sense, the very profession is the the ability to go in and make sense out of something that is not understood. Some but not many WP editors have that skill also. A very few as actual journalists, a few from related training (such as we librarians), some from innate ability, but generally from experience and attention.
On 7/25/07, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
The most interesting thing about his program is that he knows little about Wikipedia, thus interviews the usual people, exhibiting a sense of wonder all the way. In other words, he has no shame attempting to grapple as an amateur with a topic he is not expert in, in much the same manner as a typical Wikipedia editor.
This does not stop him from soliciting the usual criticism that Wikipedia is not edited by experts. Apparently he takes for granted that as a journalist, he need not be an expert himself, at least not in the subject matter he addresses.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Steven Walling [mailto:steven.walling@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 08:54 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC
quite. sorry. here it is.http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/progs/radioplayer_holding.shtml
On 7/24/07, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
A url would help
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Steven Walling [mailto:steven.walling@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 08:11 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: [WikiEN-l] BBC
Has anyone listened to the BBC's recent Wikipedia coverage? I'm on an
iBook
and it's only available in RealPlayer format.
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On 25/07/07, David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com wrote:
Journals are professionals, with specialized training and supervised experience. They are taught how to work with things they do not necessarily understand--in a sense, the very profession is the the ability to go in and make sense out of something that is not understood. Some but not many WP editors have that skill also. A very few as actual journalists, a few from related training (such as we librarians), some from innate ability, but generally from experience and attention.
That's the theory. Go and read a few science articles in mainstream media and you'll soon realise that in practice things are very different. Journalists think they can write about things they don't understand and are generally wrong. Sound familiar?
I've not got access to the Internet proper at the moment, but I believe we are discussing 'The Wikipedia Story' broadcast on BBC Radio 4 yesterday? Clive Anderson is a trained barrister and a comedian, not a journalist. We discussed the programme on Wikimediauk-l, see the archives.
On 25/07/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
On 25/07/07, David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com wrote:
Journals are professionals, with specialized training and supervised experience. They are taught how to work with things they do not necessarily understand--in a sense, the very profession is the the ability to go in and make sense out of something that is not understood. Some but not many WP editors have that skill also. A very few as actual journalists, a few from related training (such as we librarians), some from innate ability, but generally from experience and attention.
That's the theory. Go and read a few science articles in mainstream media and you'll soon realise that in practice things are very different. Journalists think they can write about things they don't understand and are generally wrong. Sound familiar?
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