Could people please write to me privately to volunteer for mediation and arbitration committees? You can't be on both, but please indicate your willingness to serve on mediation, arbitration, or either, and your preference, if any, so that I may make some selections based on what people are willing to do.
That is, your email should say something like: "I only want to volunteer for the mediation committee." or "I prefer mediation, but I'd also do arbitration if you asked." or "Either mediation or arbitration is better for me."
Then what I'll do is make appointments, the number depending on the number of volunteers I get, and I'll make them for a defined period and I'll stagger the terms, say 1, 2, or 3 years.
I'll try to get a healthy mix of people on the committee, including some of the people who would almost never vote for a ban. But also some of the people who would almost always vote for a ban. :-) This will most closely replicate my own internal debate on these matters.
Then, a year from now, we can start a series of votes to make those positions community-selected. We can even vote on whether or not to continue the process or go back to Jimbo-dicatorship.
I'd say let's come up with proposals and vote on it, and then have elections, and all that, but it would take months to do it that way, and I think we're all still exhausted from the logo voting debate.
We can work out the details as we go along, rather than trying to figure it all out a priori.
--Jimbo
--- Jimmy Wales jwales@joey.bomis.com wrote:
That is, your email should say something like: "I only want to volunteer for the mediation committee." or "I prefer mediation, but I'd also do arbitration if you asked." or "Either mediation or arbitration is better for me."
I prefer mediation, but I'd also do arbitration if you asked.
~S~
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--- Jimmy Wales jwales@joey.bomis.com wrote:
That is, your email should say something like: "I only want to volunteer for the mediation committee." or "I prefer mediation, but I'd also do arbitration if you asked." or "Either mediation or arbitration is better for me."
I prefer mediation, but I'd also do arbitration if you asked.
~S~
I would be happy to volunteer to be a member of the group (I don't know what is meant by the word committee) of volunteers who will try to advocate for someone who is accused of violating the standards. I would take that role _very_ seriously and try to present their activity and contributions in the best possible light to any structure the the brothers and sisters of the cenacle decide. Anyone can contact me via the email on my link and then I will help them prepare their case (of course I reserve the right not to advocate unreasonable positions and I can't guarantee that I will take on every case but if I have the time I want to make sure that any one who feels that have been wrongly accused and who face banning when they sincerely want to continue to contribute to Wikipedia will get help from me. I promise that I will advocate for them as zealously as I can under the circumstances as long as they cooperate with me and do not ask me to state any falsehoods or misrepresentations on their behalf.
Alex756
I would also like to be a member. -Vancouverguy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex R." alex756@nyc.rr.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org; "Jimmy Wales" jwales@bomis.com Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Committe volunteers requested
From: "Stevertigo" utilitymuffinresearch2@yahoo.com
--- Jimmy Wales jwales@joey.bomis.com wrote:
That is, your email should say something like: "I only want to volunteer for the mediation committee." or "I prefer mediation, but I'd also do arbitration if you asked." or "Either mediation or arbitration is better for me."
I prefer mediation, but I'd also do arbitration if you asked.
~S~
I would be happy to volunteer to be a member of the group (I don't know what is meant by the word committee) of volunteers who will try to advocate for someone who is accused of violating the standards. I would take that role _very_ seriously and try to present their activity and contributions in the best possible light to any structure the the brothers and sisters of the cenacle decide. Anyone can contact me via the email on my link and then I will help them prepare their case (of course I reserve the right not to advocate unreasonable positions and I can't guarantee that I will take on every case but if I have the time I want to make sure that any one who feels that have been wrongly accused and who face banning when they sincerely want to continue to contribute to Wikipedia will get help from me. I promise that I will advocate for them as zealously as I can under the circumstances as long as they cooperate with me and do not ask me to state any falsehoods or misrepresentations on their behalf.
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At 06:58 AM 10/3/2003, you wrote:
Could people please write to me privately to volunteer for mediation and arbitration committees? You can't be on both, but please indicate your willingness to serve on mediation, arbitration, or either, and your preference, if any, so that I may make some selections based on what people are willing to do.
Ugh. In my opinion this is a bad idea. The way I was thinking about the committees is that they'd be chosen more or less at random on a regular basis from a pool of volunteers. The terms could run something like 3 months and no one would serve more than once on a given board in a 12-month period. I think that as long as we've got boards for this sort of thing, there ought to be a little more variety in them. All we have to do is limit volunteers to people who have been active for 6+ months or something, and we automatically weed out people who aren't really interested.
----- Dante Alighieri dalighieri@digitalgrapefruit.com
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of great moral crisis." -Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321
Dante Alighieri wrote:
Could people please write to me privately to volunteer for mediation and arbitration committees? You can't be on both, but please indicate your willingness to serve on mediation, arbitration, or either, and your preference, if any, so that I may make some selections based on what people are willing to do.
Ugh. In my opinion this is a bad idea. The way I was thinking about the committees is that they'd be chosen more or less at random on a regular basis from a pool of volunteers.
Well, the big problem I see with this concept is that it isn't like we have an excess of volunteers. I'm looking for around 11-15 people for each of arbitration and mediation. That's 22-30 people. If we had 300 volunteers, then rotating frequently and randomly would be interesting to be sure.
Another disadvantage of randomness is that some people will be better at this than other people. I think that voting will help guide us to better selections in the long run, and provides a popular check on power that randomness might not.
--Jimbo