Whenever I've blocked someone (other than anonymous IP) or taken any other unilateral action, I've always immediately reported it to this mailing list.
Then I've sat back and waited to see what others thought. And if the consensus went against me, I bowed to the collective will.
A lot of these hasty blocks seem to have sneaked in under the tent flap.
Ed Poor, aka Uncle Ed
Poor, Edmund W wrote:
Whenever I've blocked someone (other than anonymous IP) or taken any other unilateral action, I've always immediately reported it to this mailing list.
Then I've sat back and waited to see what others thought. And if the consensus went against me, I bowed to the collective will.
A lot of these hasty blocks seem to have sneaked in under the tent flap.
Sorry Ed, but we can't use nostalgia as a valid argument. When I first joined you would feel obliged to take a sabbatical whenever someone objected to your blocking someone. But times have changed; that's progress, and you can't stop progress. "Everybody"'s armed now. Why bother sneaking under the tent flap, when you can slash a hole in the back of the tent with your machete.
Ec
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Poor, Edmund W wrote:
Whenever I've blocked someone (other than anonymous IP) or taken any other unilateral action, I've always immediately reported it to this mailing list.
Then I've sat back and waited to see what others thought. And if the consensus went against me, I bowed to the collective will.
A lot of these hasty blocks seem to have sneaked in under the tent flap.
Sorry Ed, but we can't use nostalgia as a valid argument. When I first joined you would feel obliged to take a sabbatical whenever someone objected to your blocking someone. But times have changed; that's progress, and you can't stop progress. "Everybody"'s armed now. Why bother sneaking under the tent flap, when you can slash a hole in the back of the tent with your machete.
Ec
By "everybody", I suppose you mean "sysop", right ?
As far as I can remember, I've only blocked three logged-in users: Ric, who just yesterday created a user account and then copied my User and User Talk pages to his pages. I blocked him and deleted the pages. Wik, twice, for the same violations -- blanking articles and reverting useful content. And both of those times, I reported it on [[Wikipedia:Conflicts between users/Wik]], so those were NOT "sneaked in under the tent flap". And JoeM, a repeated, massive POV vandal, who nobody seems to have a problem with blocking, even though it didn't take months to get it accomplished.
Besides, when somebody is blocked it appears in the Recent Changes, and on the [[List of blocked IP addresses and usernames]].
RickK
"Poor, Edmund W" Edmund.W.Poor@abc.com wrote: Whenever I've blocked someone (other than anonymous IP) or taken any other unilateral action, I've always immediately reported it to this mailing list.
Then I've sat back and waited to see what others thought. And if the consensus went against me, I bowed to the collective will.
A lot of these hasty blocks seem to have sneaked in under the tent flap.
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Rick wrote:
As far as I can remember, I've only blocked three logged-in users: Ric, who just yesterday created a user account and then copied my User and User Talk pages to his pages. I blocked him and deleted the pages.
I think that's totally legitimate. What you might do, in the interests of preserving an aura of neutrality, is ask another sysop to do the dirty work. But that kind of behavior falls pretty cleanly into the category of "pure vandalism", and I see no real pressing need for us to hold a full court case about it.
Wik, twice, for the same violations -- blanking articles and reverting useful content. And both of those times, I reported it on [[Wikipedia:Conflicts between users/Wik]], so those were NOT "sneaked in under the tent flap".
But these were controversial, and remain so. Wik is a regular contributor, not a "simple vandal", a general pain in the neck, but not an emergency situation.
--Jimbo