In a message dated 12/31/2008 7:53:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, crustybush(a)gmail.com writes: If I'm right, Phil is complaining that NOR contradicts NPOV because someone won't necessarily be able to defend themselves in their article because what they say (eg through a letter) will be OR, and therefore the article won't have NPOV?>> --------------------------- No. What Phil is stating is that NOR contradicts NPOV because of a line which states that primary sources may only be used for descriptive clauses (not interpretive ones). Therefore, since what an author writes is a primary source, they cannot defend themselves from perceived false interpretations of others, which are secondary sources. My counters included an attack on whether an op-ed is really secondary. And also an attack on whether a self-review is really primary. Will Johnson **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)