Generally speaking we don't include stuff that is made up; unless it crosses the notability threshold. This might, but does not seem to yet.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Oleg Alexandrov [mailto:mathbot@hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 06:59 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: [WikiEN-l] Self-sensorship, how far should it go?
As we know, Slashdot posted a story linking to a paranoic article revealing SlimVirgin's real name and claiming she is a secret agent. Bad and dumb on their part. That of course makes SlimVirgin feel distressed, creates a lot of damage, etc.
However, how far should Wikipedians go to "protect" the feelings of their editors? As of now, any attempts (and they were many) to mention anything about this anywhere on Wikipedia is reverted on sight. Any post with the words "SlimVirgin news" is just deleted.
I beleive this is going overboard. The damage is done. Shutting our eyes and ears, pretending "All is well in Wiki-land", and ruthless self-censoring is just further damaging Wikipedia's reputation.
Comments?
Oleg Alexandrov
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Fred Bauder wrote:
Generally speaking we don't include stuff that is made up; unless it crosses the notability threshold.
In the main article space, sure. But I presume Oleg was referring to User, Talk, and project space.
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 01:15:26PM +0000, Fred Bauder wrote:
Generally speaking we don't include stuff that is made up; unless it crosses the notability threshold. This might, but does not seem to yet.
I am not talking about including this in articles. I am talking about people removing any mention of this from talk pages, not just the link to the attack site, nothing, nothing at all containing the words "SlimVirgin" and "news" is allowed to stand.
I understand that such discussion may be off-topic on Wikipedia, but how far should people go to purge any mention on this from the site? This is not about notability anymore, not about protecting the feelings of an editor, it is about some Wikipedians using the policy of attack sites to censor and delete any discussions on the topic.
-----Original Message----- From: Oleg Alexandrov [mailto:mathbot@hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 06:59 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: [WikiEN-l] Self-sensorship, how far should it go?
As we know, Slashdot posted a story linking to a paranoic article revealing SlimVirgin's real name and claiming she is a secret agent. Bad and dumb on their part. That of course makes SlimVirgin feel distressed, creates a lot of damage, etc.
However, how far should Wikipedians go to "protect" the feelings of their editors? As of now, any attempts (and they were many) to mention anything about this anywhere on Wikipedia is reverted on sight. Any post with the words "SlimVirgin news" is just deleted.
I beleive this is going overboard. The damage is done. Shutting our eyes and ears, pretending "All is well in Wiki-land", and ruthless self-censoring is just further damaging Wikipedia's reputation.
Comments?
Oleg Alexandrov
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