Wikien-l, I have just been blocked for an alleged 3RR violation at Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda I thought the rules favored the contributor, since the first edit doesn't count as a revert, but in this case it appears the first edit is being counted as a revert so the deletionist is getting the final say. While my first edit is adding text that I have previously proposed, it is two days later and to a new version of the article. The text had previously been opposed but on unconvincing, rather spurious grounds that I have responded to in good faith on the talk page and in the edit summaries. I think this article is heading for two versions because csloat is trying to rally a clique, but in the meantime I am curious about this technical issue of how edits/reverts are counted. I would not have knowingly violated 3RR, apologies if I am wrong. -- thanx for your consideration, Silverback
I dont know. Im being RFAR'ed for pretty much the same thing. Depends on who whines on IRC first.
SV
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Wikien-l, I have just been blocked for an alleged 3RR violation at Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda I thought the rules favored the contributor, since the first edit doesn't count as a revert, but in this case it appears the first edit is being counted as a revert so the deletionist is getting the final say. While my first edit is adding text that I have previously proposed, it is two days later and to a new version of the article. The text had previously been opposed but on unconvincing, rather spurious grounds that I have responded to in good faith on the talk page and in the edit summaries. I think this article is heading for two versions because csloat is trying to rally a clique, but in the meantime I am curious about this technical issue of how edits/reverts are counted. I would not have knowingly violated 3RR, apologies if I am wrong. -- thanx for your consideration,
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Folks, let me suggest that there's a trick to avoiding this kind of hassle. Don't edit war.
Simple.
Easy to say. You dont have right-wing nutcases tag team reverting your rewrites.
SV
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Folks, let me suggest that there's a trick to avoiding this kind of hassle. Don't edit war.
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On 10/4/05, steve v vertigosteve@yahoo.com wrote:
Folks, let me suggest that there's a trick to avoiding this kind of hassle. Don't edit war.
Easy to say. You dont have right-wing nutcases tag
team reverting your rewrites.
I've dealt with stuff like that. You know there are talk pages, RfCs, all kinds of stuff. And oodles of very reasonable editors around to make sure extreme stuff doesn't go unchallenged. So there's no need to edit war.
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I've dealt with stuff like that. You know there are talk pages, RfCs, all kinds of stuff. And oodles of very reasonable editors around to make sure extreme stuff doesn't go unchallenged. So there's no need to edit war.
Even the oodles of reasonable editors avoid certain topics like the plague. Le Vietnam War for one.
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And oodles of very reasonable editors around to make sure extreme stuff doesn't go unchallenged.
I wish! See my long rant before.
So there's no need to edit war.
Now that's true, but it can be easier said then done...
Thanks, Ryan
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There are far more left-wing than right-wing editors on WP, so surely you can put together a posse if that's what it's come to.
Stan
steve v wrote:
Easy to say. You dont have right-wing nutcases tag team reverting your rewrites.
SV
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Im naive and idealistic, so Ive been trying reason and responsiveness. I guess you could say it hasnt been working, so maybe youre right and now its time to finally form that anti-tyranny/pro-liberty cabal that people have been waiting for.
SV
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There are far more left-wing than right-wing editors on WP, so surely you can put together a posse if that's what it's come to.
Stan
steve v wrote:
Easy to say. You dont have right-wing nutcases tag team reverting your rewrites.
SV
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steve v wrote:
Im naive and idealistic, so Ive been trying reason and responsiveness. I guess you could say it hasnt been working, so maybe youre right and now its time to finally form that anti-tyranny/pro-liberty cabal that people have been waiting for.
You mean the cabal isn't like that already?
I must be in the wrong cabal...
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On 10/4/05, Alphax wrote:
You mean the cabal isn't like that already?
I must be in the wrong cabal...
TINC.
What! Then who have I been paying membership fees to?
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ABCD wrote:
On 10/4/05, Alphax wrote:
You mean the cabal isn't like that already?
I must be in the wrong cabal...
TINC.
What! Then who have I been paying membership fees to?
That's what I've been wondering, ever since I got that email that started "Worshipful Sir, I am the widow of former Nigerian President Sanni Abacha, and I wish to prevail upon your bounteous goodwill in recovering his cabal worth millions of US dollars..."
The 3RR was made to avoid personal edit wars and promote community discussion. The NPOV version should stay because the majority of editors support it.
If the article is subject to POV edits you are not the only one able to revert it. If it's the reasonable thing to do, there's enough people willing to help out. All you need to do is point out the POV pushers aren't responding to a request for discussion and that their edits are indeed POV.
--Mgm
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Tony Sidaway wrote:
That's what I've been wondering, ever since I got that email that started "Worshipful Sir, I am the widow of former Nigerian President Sanni Abacha, and I wish to prevail upon your bounteous goodwill in recovering his cabal worth millions of US dollars..."
Nigerian advance fee cabal?
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On 10/3/05, steve v vertigosteve@yahoo.com wrote:
I dont know. Im being RFAR'ed for pretty much the same thing. Depends on who whines on IRC first.
That's completely false. You know why you're the subject of arbitration and it's NOT because you violated the 3RR. It's because of blantant misuse of your admin powers in an attempt to "win" an edit war. The fact that you keep insisting otherwise is seriously hurting your case and your credibility. Carbonite