I have recently become aware of Veropedia and that in some areas FA or GA from Wikipedia are being uploaded there. I have seen a suggestion that this may be jumping the gun on stable versions. I see Danny runs it. I am surprised it has not been mentioned here (or did I miss it?) or it seems much on WP itself. I certainly think it is better way than Citizendium for getting expert eyes on an article and saving that version. As all the work is actually done on WP, it has a close link to us. What do people think about this initiative in general?
Would it be a good idea of having a way to indicate that an article has been uploaded to Veropedia and to link to it? Perhaps like the interwiki links.
Brian.
I think it's an interesting idea. As a side note: it seems the Veropedia article on Wikipedia is up for deletion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Veropedia#Veropedia
On 11/2/07, Brian Salter-Duke b_duke@bigpond.net.au wrote:
I have recently become aware of Veropedia and that in some areas FA or GA from Wikipedia are being uploaded there. I have seen a suggestion that this may be jumping the gun on stable versions. I see Danny runs it. I am surprised it has not been mentioned here (or did I miss it?) or it seems much on WP itself. I certainly think it is better way than Citizendium for getting expert eyes on an article and saving that version. As all the work is actually done on WP, it has a close link to us. What do people think about this initiative in general?
Would it be a good idea of having a way to indicate that an article has been uploaded to Veropedia and to link to it? Perhaps like the interwiki links.
Brian.
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Yeah, a thing like a good article template would be good. Spooky how this email came right after I requested a Veropedia account
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On 03/11/2007, Phoenix wiki phoenix.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, a thing like a good article template would be good. Spooky how this email came right after I requested a Veropedia account
I really like the idea of Veropedia, and that their "donate here" link actually tells you to give your money to WMF if you like Veropedia ;-) Danny's been all about quality improvement for a long while, and Veropedia is certainly a step up from the usual plain mirror-site-with-Google-ads. That the Veropedia improvement mechanism is to improve the Wikipedia article is good too.
That said, I'm not sure I wouldn't just look stuff up on Wikipedia as usual. (Yes, I do use Wikipedia as a convenient encyclopedia now, whereas I wouldn't have when I started with it ... maybe on technical topics.) But then, I hardly look up an article these days without performing at least a minor touch-up edit on it.
What do others think of Veropedia? In particular, what do you think would make people want to look stuff up at Veropedia first?
- d.
On 03/11/2007, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
What do others think of Veropedia? In particular, what do you think would make people want to look stuff up at Veropedia first?
Also, we should make a list of productised Wikipedia derivatives:
* Wikipedia 0.5 CD * SOS Children Wikipedia Selection for Schools DVD, 2006 and 2007 * Veropedia * Citizendium when it started (though it's its own thing now)
Any others of note? Did the Unification Encyclopedia that Ed Poor was working on ever put anything out?
- d.
On 2007.11.03 18:43:56 +0000, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com scribbled 0 lines:
On 03/11/2007, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
What do others think of Veropedia? In particular, what do you think would make people want to look stuff up at Veropedia first?
Also, we should make a list of productised Wikipedia derivatives:
- Wikipedia 0.5 CD
- SOS Children Wikipedia Selection for Schools DVD, 2006 and 2007
- Veropedia
- Citizendium when it started (though it's its own thing now)
Any others of note? Did the Unification Encyclopedia that Ed Poor was working on ever put anything out?
- d.
They're still cranking stuff out. I even contributed one article. But my experience with them hasn't been too positive - they can be hard to work with.
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On 04/11/2007, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
That said, I'm not sure I wouldn't just look stuff up on Wikipedia as usual. [...] What do others think of Veropedia? In particular, what do you think would make people want to look stuff up at Veropedia first?
I could be approaching this in entirely the wrong way, but I wasn't thinking of VP has a reading encyclopedia at all - yet. Right now it's just more of a repository for what we think is good, what we hope to improve, and what we want to be reviewed. I doubt we will ever provide any great competition to the Wikipedia juggernaut in terms of readership, contributors or information - and I don't think we plan to do that either. If some students can come to our article knowing that it has been reviewed and improved by experts - improvement that may have been lost or diluted on Wikipedia - then we've done what we set out to do. Or I'm completely wrong.