If my 2cents count here, Ray's position sounds quite reasonable to me, too. If Jimbo is the one taking the legal risk, and if he honestly thinks that it falls under fair use, then I think we should let him work on the list.

At Japanese wikipedia, we sometimes talk about taking legal risks. Current understanding is that if administrators are too cautious taking risks (or too bold) and other users do not like it, the users recall the admins, and find substitute who can take reasonable risk.

This idea is again, because admins are far more likely to be sued for knowingly keeping suspected copyvio, obscene, defamatory, or other allegedly illegal material available - more so than other users.

We take admins' opinions a bit more seriously when it comes to risk. But admins have to serve the users, so if they think their idea of reasonable risk is too far away from other users', then they should resign.

I think there is little dispute regarding Jimbo's good leadership and contribution, and there is no need for recall or resignation. So we can support his move.

If Columbia comes to notify us, then we would discuss again.

Regards,

Tomos

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