On 22 Jun 2007 at 08:10:15 -0700, William Pietri william@scissor.com wrote:
Instead, I'm saying that the if Orson Welles thinks the best way to tell the Citizen Kane story is to create a mystery, we should not casually reveal it just because somebody thinks, as a couple of people on this list have suggested, that it's just as good either way.
Although, in [[RKO 281]], a 1999 film that was a fictionalized account of the creation of Citizen Kane, Welles is shown yelling the spoiler about "Rosebud" to the crowd waiting in the theater lobby before the start of an opening-night showing, just for the heck of it. (At that point he's pretty frustrated with the whole movie business, after all the manipulations to try to suppress his film.)
On 6/23/07, Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name wrote:
On 22 Jun 2007 at 08:10:15 -0700, William Pietri william@scissor.com wrote:
Instead, I'm saying that the if Orson Welles thinks the best way to tell the Citizen Kane story is to create a mystery, we should not casually reveal it just because somebody thinks, as a couple of people on this list have suggested, that it's just as good either way.
Although, in [[RKO 281]], a 1999 film that was a fictionalized account of the creation of Citizen Kane, Welles is shown yelling the spoiler about "Rosebud" to the crowd waiting in the theater lobby before the start of an opening-night showing, just for the heck of it. (At that point he's pretty frustrated with the whole movie business, after all the manipulations to try to suppress his film.)
Totally by the by, there is a plot hole in that movie big enough to drive a truck through.
[[Spider Robinson]] loves to tell the tale about a guy who walked up to the table where Orson Welles and the script writer of Citizen Kane were drinking in Cannes. They got on well, untill...
The man asked... "So let me get this straight... Citizen Kane died alone?" (both the scriptwriter and Welles nodded)...
"So how do we know what his last words were?"
The kicker in the story is that as Spider tells it, neither Welles or the scriptwriter said a word to the guy for the rest of the evening...
-- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
On 6/23/07, Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name wrote:
Although, in [[RKO 281]], a 1999 film that was a fictionalized
account of the creation of Citizen Kane, Welles is shown yelling the spoiler about "Rosebud" to the crowd waiting in the theater lobby before the start of an opening-night showing, just for the heck of it. (At that point he's pretty frustrated with the whole movie business, after all the manipulations to try to suppress his film.)
Totally by the by, there is a plot hole in that movie big enough to drive a truck through.
[[Spider Robinson]] loves to tell the tale about a guy who walked up to the table where Orson Welles and the script writer of Citizen Kane were drinking in Cannes. They got on well, untill...
The man asked... "So let me get this straight... Citizen Kane died alone?" (both the scriptwriter and Welles nodded)...
"So how do we know what his last words were?"
The kicker in the story is that as Spider tells it, neither Welles or the scriptwriter said a word to the guy for the rest of the evening...
Sounds like the kind of Wikipedian who would delete "Rosebud" for lack of sources.
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