Christiaan writes:
Well no. Maybe they're right, who really knows? It's a point of view. Maybe he does want to kill all Muslims (Bush doesn't necessarily let on what he actually thinks) and maybe he does "deserve" to die. They're all point of views, and that you think such people who think such things are "wrong" is another point of view. Jayjg may not be an angel to work with but to productively collaborate on a Wikipedia article an understanding of the above is crucial it seems to me.
I'm glad that we agree with each other, but JayJg does not seem to agree with this (at least not in practice). You offer a crucial point: There is a difference between what a person says (e.g. George Bush) and what critics of that person claims they really believe (e.g. certain Muslim groups.)
We must accurately describe what George W. Bush and the White House present as their policy. We must also accurately describe the POV of critics of the Bush White House. If someone wants, we even can present the POV of extremist groups that hate Bush and wish that he would be killed. (But to be fair, we would also have to note that such groups are not mainstream and are considered violent.)
But we must never present the view of Muslim terrorist groups AS IF they were the views of George W. Bush! That is intellectually dishonest.
The same is true for describing the beliefs and teachings of religious groups, like Conservative Judaism, Reform Judaism, the Catholic Church, etc. We must never present the view of their most angry critics AS IF they were the views of the group itself! That is intellectually dishonest
Robert (RK)
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