[wrong thread david :)] On 9/12/07, steven rubenstein slrubenstein@yahoo.com wrote: [snip]
(PS by all means, go ahead and make some dismissive comment about me. The great thing about not being on the listserve is, it doesn't matter to me)
Okay.
Prior to Steven's post no one was attacking anyone. There was no yelling, no accusations, no burnings at the stake. As far as I'm aware admins are not required by policy to have email this user enabled, although it's a good practice. Multiple people had pointed out that it was easy to end up in that state accidently. All in all a polite and resonable conversation.
Then in wades Steven with the meoldramatic accusations of Witchhunting. It just made no sense. I felt attacked by it, ... can I not post a simple factual list without being accused of all sorts of evil? but it was somewhat hard to feel too bad about it because it just made no sense.
As such I'm thankful for Phil's reply. I didn't ask for it, but I saw it as a defense. I laughed. It could have been more polite, sure.. but I'm just glad someone took the time out of their day to say something about Steven's message rather than leaving the people it was targeted at standing alone.
Most importantly, I think that no one should claim that it was Phil who attacked first in this case:
The fact Steven used non-sense accusations rather than mean words or a condescending tone didn't make his message any less of an attack than if he had.
It amuses me that around here the people I see doing the most harassing are the ones who claim to be against harassment.
FYI: I was being completely sarcastic. There was obviously no "witchhunt", it was just a polite discussion about admin's email status. I said what I said because it was one of the only posts which wasn't some inflated battle. It was a comment on the nature of list.
On 9/12/07, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
[wrong thread david :)] On 9/12/07, steven rubenstein slrubenstein@yahoo.com wrote: [snip]
(PS by all means, go ahead and make some dismissive comment about me. The great thing about not being on the listserve is, it doesn't matter to me)
Okay.
Prior to Steven's post no one was attacking anyone. There was no yelling, no accusations, no burnings at the stake. As far as I'm aware admins are not required by policy to have email this user enabled, although it's a good practice. Multiple people had pointed out that it was easy to end up in that state accidently. All in all a polite and resonable conversation.
Then in wades Steven with the meoldramatic accusations of Witchhunting. It just made no sense. I felt attacked by it, ... can I not post a simple factual list without being accused of all sorts of evil? but it was somewhat hard to feel too bad about it because it just made no sense.
As such I'm thankful for Phil's reply. I didn't ask for it, but I saw it as a defense. I laughed. It could have been more polite, sure.. but I'm just glad someone took the time out of their day to say something about Steven's message rather than leaving the people it was targeted at standing alone.
Most importantly, I think that no one should claim that it was Phil who attacked first in this case:
The fact Steven used non-sense accusations rather than mean words or a condescending tone didn't make his message any less of an attack than if he had.
It amuses me that around here the people I see doing the most harassing are the ones who claim to be against harassment.
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On 9/13/07, Steven Walling steven.walling@gmail.com wrote:
FYI: I was being completely sarcastic. There was obviously no "witchhunt", it was just a polite discussion about admin's email status. I said what I said because it was one of the only posts which wasn't some inflated battle. It was a comment on the nature of list.
Bwhaha! Hopefully some of your angry supporters see your message. ;)
On 14/09/2007, Steven Walling steven.walling@gmail.com wrote:
FYI: I was being completely sarcastic. There was obviously no "witchhunt", it was just a polite discussion about admin's email status. I said what I said because it was one of the only posts which wasn't some inflated battle. It was a comment on the nature of list.
The list really must be bad if we're so used to people going off the rails that we don't notice when they're just joking...
On 14/09/2007, Steven Walling steven.walling@gmail.com wrote:
FYI: I was being completely sarcastic. There was obviously no "witchhunt", it was just a polite discussion about admin's email status. I said what I said because it was one of the only posts which wasn't some inflated battle. It was a comment on the nature of list.
I was beginning to suspect you meant that, but I didn't want to risk putting words in your mouth :-)
The teacup shrinks further around the storm...
I don't think the ensuing confusion should be blamed solely on the list. Sarcasm is probably the least transmittable conversational nuance when using email, and I probably didn't make it any easier. I think the lesson if for me to be more careful in the future.
On 9/14/07, Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/09/2007, Steven Walling steven.walling@gmail.com wrote:
FYI: I was being completely sarcastic. There was obviously no "witchhunt", it was just a polite discussion about admin's email status. I said what I said because it was one of the only posts which wasn't some inflated battle. It was a comment on the nature of list.
I was beginning to suspect you meant that, but I didn't want to risk putting words in your mouth :-)
The teacup shrinks further around the storm...
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