The situation as I see it is - If we have guilines with no means of punishing people who willfully break them then there is no incentive for them not to break them and edit wars will still happen. OTOH if admins have the power to ban people there may be situations where admins apply the rule more forcefully then they should. Sometimes people can be very rigid when applying rules. Also I can see a situation where admins are chastised by non admin users for not banning someone who broke the rule. I don't want a situation where wik for example says I am in the wrong for not banning Anthony etc.
I think the best way to go, is to produce guidelines for admins as to what to do when they see a rule broken. Such as - "If you think it was a newbie error -inform the newbie and wait 1 week to see if they take any notice" or "if its 4-6 reverts and the user has not had an edit war on any other articles, protect the page, and warn the user to stop."
That sort of thing.
Theresa
-----Original Message----- From: Jimmy Wales [mailto:jwales@bomis.com] Sent: 09 March 2004 13:51 To: bjrn.lindqvist@telia.com; English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] The 3-revert rule
Bjorn Lindqvist wrote:
When *I* voted on that poll some week ago, the poll was about whether there should be a *guideline* that reads "do not do more than three reverts" or not. Nowhere on that page did it say that the poll really was about whether to allow admins to block a user that reverts three times or not.
Many of the 51+ persons that has voted probably did not either understand that the vote was about bannings. If that is what the vote is about and not just a guideline.
I share Bjorn's concern.
It's one thing to say that we have a very strong community guideline or norm that says 3 reverts in a day is enough. It's quite another thing to introduce an entirely new paradigm in which 24 hour bans are made for things that are not really emergency situations.
I'm not 100% opposed to the idea, but my foot dragging on making any sort of decree about this is grounded in the fact that I see this as a rather radical departure from past practice.
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