This is a rather absurd argument. There are plenty of organizations besides the Communist Party that advocate promoting leaders, many of which would be "good organizations." Invoking Ayn Rand is hardly a trump card, anyway, since not everyone is going to consider her the pinnacle of wisdom.
Putting that aside, it's a moot argument, anyway. Whether you like it or not, admins are seen as having a special position within Wikipedia, and are generally considered leaders. We are better off looking at how we should handle that reality, rather than philosophizing on why it shouldn't be the case. Sxeptomaniac
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:15:14 EDT From: WJhonson@aol.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] SUL pilot
Admins should never be given precedence on *any* thing. Admins should have no special position within the community.
By doing so, you create a two-tiered, have and have not society.
This is not what Ayn Rand wanted, nor what she advocated.
It is however what the Communist Party advocates.
So which, of those two would you choose?
On 17/03/2008, Matt Jacobs sxeptomaniac@gmail.com wrote:
Putting that aside, it's a moot argument, anyway. Whether you like it or not, admins are seen as having a special position within Wikipedia,
Interesting. I keep hearing that Adminship "is not a big deal".
What is interesting is that changes to the RfA process and the standards people use for voting come about mostly through WT:RFA, and that naturally attracts folks who think adminship is something of a big deal, and as a result we mostly get admins who think adminship is a big deal (even if they don't say so up front). You can plot the rest of the course, I guess.
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:45 PM, James Farrar james.farrar@gmail.com wrote:
On 17/03/2008, Matt Jacobs sxeptomaniac@gmail.com wrote:
Putting that aside, it's a moot argument, anyway. Whether you like it or not, admins are seen as having a special position within Wikipedia,
Interesting. I keep hearing that Adminship "is not a big deal".
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On 17/03/2008, James Farrar james.farrar@gmail.com wrote:
On 17/03/2008, Matt Jacobs sxeptomaniac@gmail.com wrote:
Putting that aside, it's a moot argument, anyway. Whether you like it or not, admins are seen as having a special position within Wikipedia,
Interesting. I keep hearing that Adminship "is not a big deal".
There's theory, then there's RFA.
- d.
On 17/03/2008, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 17/03/2008, James Farrar james.farrar@gmail.com wrote:
On 17/03/2008, Matt Jacobs sxeptomaniac@gmail.com wrote:
Putting that aside, it's a moot argument, anyway. Whether you like it or not, admins are seen as having a special position within Wikipedia,
Interesting. I keep hearing that Adminship "is not a big deal".
There's theory, then there's RFA.
Of course, Adminship "not being a big deal" is most commonly trotted out as a reason not to reform the seriously flawed process that is RFA.