With the couple of suicide notes in the past few weeks, and now this issue about school violence threats (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden... )
I think it would be prudent if there were an "official" or semi-official policy/How-To set up, similar to the revised WP:SUICIDE.
Thoughts?
--Avi
On 10/16/07, Avi avi.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
With the couple of suicide notes in the past few weeks, and now this issue about school violence threats (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden... )
I think it would be prudent if there were an "official" or semi-official policy/How-To set up, similar to the revised WP:SUICIDE.
Thoughts?
--Avi
I just posted on-thread there, but I think I generally agree that it would be a good thing.
For many of the same reasons as with potentially suicidal users, we're not equipped or trained to make a judgement as to the credibility of an apparent death threat. Punt to the authorities, notify the WMF Office, notify on ANI, revert the edits and block the user.
If it turns out to be a joke in poor taste and no actual threat of violence, we have at least minimized drama here that way. If it was credible, or somewhat credible, we may have avoided something really bad happening.
I tend to agree that in this particular case the odds appear high that it's just a bad joke, but I think that the punt to the school and police was still entirely appropriate.
On 10/16/07, Avi avi.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
With the couple of suicide notes in the past few weeks, and now this issue about school violence threats (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden... )
I think it would be prudent if there were an "official" or semi-official policy/How-To set up, similar to the revised WP:SUICIDE.
Thoughts?
--Avi
Well this exemplifies just how useless the office is. I agree that contacting the school was the right thing to have done, but I think it's pretty damn disgusting that its Wikipedia editors that have to do it. So no I don't agree that a policy should be set up, the people that run this website should step in and make some kind of official *efficient* process rather than sit back and let these matters be handled in a confused, unsure manner by people who don't really know what they're doing (though they are of course well meaning and I appreciate that they do it).
"How crappy the office is"? What are you talking about? The office is no all knowing. Call them, if they are there, they will most certainly handle it and handle it well.
On 10/16/07, Kamryn Matika kamrynmatika@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/16/07, Avi avi.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
With the couple of suicide notes in the past few weeks, and now this issue about school violence threats (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden...
)
I think it would be prudent if there were an "official" or semi-official policy/How-To set up, similar to the revised WP:SUICIDE.
Thoughts?
--Avi
Well this exemplifies just how useless the office is. I agree that contacting the school was the right thing to have done, but I think it's pretty damn disgusting that its Wikipedia editors that have to do it. So no I don't agree that a policy should be set up, the people that run this website should step in and make some kind of official *efficient* process rather than sit back and let these matters be handled in a confused, unsure manner by people who don't really know what they're doing (though they are of course well meaning and I appreciate that they do it). _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
On 10/16/07, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
"How crappy the office is"? What are you talking about? The office is no all knowing. Call them, if they are there, they will most certainly handle it and handle it well.
On 10/16/07, Kamryn Matika kamrynmatika@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/16/07, Avi avi.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
With the couple of suicide notes in the past few weeks, and now this issue about school violence threats (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden...
)
I think it would be prudent if there were an "official" or semi-official policy/How-To set up, similar to the revised WP:SUICIDE.
Thoughts?
--Avi
Well this exemplifies just how useless the office is. I agree that contacting the school was the right thing to have done, but I think it's pretty damn disgusting that its Wikipedia editors that have to do it. So no I don't agree that a policy should be set up, the people that run this website should step in and make some kind of official *efficient* process rather than sit back and let these matters be handled in a confused, unsure manner by people who don't really know what they're doing (though they are of course well meaning and I appreciate that they do it).
Yeah. The primary problem is that the Office has no pretension of being 24x7.
If you can get someone at the Foundation who can respond, then do that, but if not anyone should be OK with the idea that they can on their own initiative as an individual made aware of a potentially serious situation (also potential joke or hoax, but credible enough to have worried you) contact a school/policy/whoever and notify them. Also notify ANI so that others are aware, but it's "Ok" for anyone to respond.