On 27/09/2007, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote: Getting angry at people for defending themselves from child molesters, or being sockpuppets, or not being able to confirm that they are not sockpuppets, or something like that. I don't know. But if you are going to ban someone, as a parting gift, please leave the person alone.

On 9/27/07, Armed Blowfish <diodontida.armata(a)googlemail.com> wrote: Good god. First off, the site is called wikipedia. It is a free-as-in-speech encyclopedia/encyclopaedia depending on what flavor/flavour of english you speak. That doesn't change the name of the site being wikipedia, not wikipaedia. So stop being childish about the name, it's messing with my filters. Secondly, for all that is holy, no one cares about this anymore, the system works well, we are not about to collapse, and the only people who disagree are those fringe wackos at WR who are convinced we're CIA and MI5 and whatever else the dreamed up this week. And if you are honestly comparing us to ED, well, you've then shown you are incapable of logic or reason, reverting to hyperbole to try to shove a pointy stick where a good, well thought argument would normally go, and it's about time you got modded again. -- -Brock

On 9/27/07, Armed Blowfish <diodontida.armata(a)googlemail.com> wrote: free-as-in-speech is an expression to seperate that free from free-as-in-free-beer. And chinese people are not censored by wikipedia. They are blocked by their government. Show me where in the blocking policy it lists 'being chinese' as a criterion for a block. I'd rather you just stop acting like you're eight. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to correct something that could be solved by you using correct spelling. It makes you look more petty each time it's brought up and you refuse. no, the majority of people who bring this up are massive trolls hoping to stir up people like you against everyone else. Don't fall for the bait, man. We don't hurt people. Sometimes we have to remove a community member, but we don't all go out and lynch random people we dislike. 'Hey look, it's Eddie! He looked at me funny last night!' Because, you know, the community is in disarray and theres no encyclop(a)edia. Missed that happening over lunch, did I? Who the hell brought slimvirgin into this? See, that's all these people obsess over. I don't have to show that. 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence' and all that. You have yet to show anything. You spout nothing but hyperbole and nonsense, hoping some sticks, when it's patently false. Seriously. we're sorry you feel running a tor exit node is more important then editing. We are. But *you* made that choice, not us. We never forced you to run it, and we never told you you couldn't take it down. All this stems from that. you can kill the tor daemon and solve this all quickly, or you can quit whining about something that was a policy when you signed up and was known to you. _______________________________________________ -- -Brock

On 9/27/07, Armed Blowfish <diodontida.armata(a)googlemail.com> wrote: No open proxies states nothing about blocking anyone who's chinese. It means you aren't allowed to use open proxies. There is no 'american' and 'commonwealth' way of spelling it. It's a *proper* noun. I'm more then willing to help tutor you in the structure of english, if you wish. Not our fault. What google does should not and does not factor in to our mission. If i'm making a soda, I dont go out and make sure that coke is using corn syrup. I make my soda the way I make it. Not really. Don't remember that. Don't see her name or anything related to her. you're upset. Doesn't make it a legitimate gripe. oh come on. How does this person relate to the policies we set? 'No Personal Attacks, unless you have a reason to be mean because of your childhood'? You brought him up, not me, I had nothing to do with him entering the conversation, and I will not 'stop' because there was nothing out of line with the comment. I never said it's your fault, and to insinuate otherwise is intellectually and morally bankrupt. Here's a tip, if you dont want to be reminded of it, *don't bring it up*. This is another example of you bringing the list into endless tangents and gripes that have nothing to do with the purpose of the list. _______________________________________________ -- -Brock

This conversation has moved entirely off topic, and none of your assertions make any sense whatsoever. Tor is not used with the pedia unfortunately. No ones telling you to suit using it, just that at present time you cant edit through it. Giant appeal to emotion logical fallacy or not, thats the case. You use tor? We don't allow open proxies, sorry. There isn't anything more to it at this point. I applaud the fact that you run an exit node, i use tor frequently when browseing torrent sites, data retention laws what the are, and i do think that the **AA wont give a damn that i'm downloading freely distributed media, not infringing commercial works, as sue happy as they are. But i don't use it on the pedia. Because it's not allowed. That's the rules as they are now. You know this, i know this. But regardless, this is being dragged off topic. This whole thread drags the list off topic. On 9/27/07, Armed Blowfish <diodontida.armata(a)googlemail.com> wrote: -- -Brock

on 9/27/07 11:12 AM, Brock Weller at brock.weller(a)gmail.com wrote: Firstly, Brock, that is quite a sweeping statement; "no one" cares? Would you say this to a person the system has failed? <snip> Is this how you would deal with someone in your life that you don't want to hear from anymore? If you were on the phone, would you hang up on them? If you were in the same room with them, would you simply walk out? The same options are open to you on this List. Marc Riddell

On 27/09/2007, Brock Weller &lt;brock.weller(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: You have implied that it is my fault I was molested as a child by saying that using Tor is a matter of choice for me. The correct response is, 'No, that's not what I meant. I realise now that using Tor isn't a matter of choice for you, and I certainly don't think it it your fault you were molested. Sorry you were molested. *hug*'

On 9/27/07, Brock Weller &lt;brock.weller(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: I don't pretend to speak for the other list mods, but we generally moderate people only when they are actively disrupting the list. Posting ridiculous commentary usually doesn't meet that standard. Johnleemk